2016 Postmortem

MaggieD

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89. Scientific polling is accurate

Reply to sabrina 1 (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 16, 2015, 02:00 PM

Nov 2015

In fact, it is exactly how we tell that elections in other countries are not being manipulated. Just ask Jimmy Carter.

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The Results Are In and the People's Choice is Clearly Bernie Sanders! [View all] sabrina 1 Nov 2015 OP

But Internet polls don't count! The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #1

They would count if they were the other way around! Lol! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #3

Of course. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #17

what a silly unfounded comment Sheepshank Nov 2015 #97

And my question back Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #19

This has been my wonder as well Plucketeer Nov 2015 #27

So far, apparently to prove that people can cheat on these polls, two of Hillary's sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #51

Yeah, that's kind of strange, isn't it. polly7 Nov 2015 #58

First they told us Hillary's supporters don't bother to 'clickety click on online polls. But sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #62

Makes perfect sense, Sabrina. polly7 Nov 2015 #77

So, according to you, leftynyc Nov 2015 #66

No, not according to me. Read again, according to THEM, according to Hillary supporters. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #69

ONE Hillary supporter leftynyc Nov 2015 #74

Prove to me your lame "scientific" polls aren't "bullshit" aspirant Nov 2015 #86

LOL leftynyc Nov 2015 #127

Prove that they are "real polls" aspirant Nov 2015 #130

You seem to think I leftynyc Nov 2015 #132

You have no proof, just blind trust aspirant Nov 2015 #164

Conduct your own unscientific pole, here's how. WHEN CRABS ROAR Nov 2015 #168

No, wrong again. Two so far .... and all they proved was that even with cheating sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #114

LOL leftynyc Nov 2015 #129

I refuse to run down any of our dem candidtes but bjobotts Nov 2015 #191

Of course we do leftynyc Nov 2015 #61

So, you are positing Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #71

Doesn't have to be an online poll leftynyc Nov 2015 #78

But none of that explains Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #87

Such a long post to say leftynyc Nov 2015 #124

Really? I thought it was fairly comprehensive Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #148

Online polls are a waste of time leftynyc Nov 2015 #151

I think self selecting polls attract . ... PosterChild Nov 2015 #171

Could you site your source for that? Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #174

My source is.... PosterChild Nov 2015 #185

Partisan opinion. Le Taz Hot Nov 2015 #198

LOL, that's crazy talk.... PosterChild Nov 2015 #210

So much well focused energy behind her campaign! I bet you don't discount social media advertising Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #96

I can't believe you're even asking leftynyc Nov 2015 #126

I'm just saying that the idea that Clinton supporters in particular would materially participate in Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #134

Well leftynyc Nov 2015 #135

So Hillary supporters are generally smarter than other candidate's supporters? I know you'd like to Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #136

If that's why they're not leftynyc Nov 2015 #137

I find it odd that people say they are too smart to participate in online polls. So how do we sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #207

Exactly. I wouldn't go near one. eom PosterChild Nov 2015 #170

Self selected polls ... PosterChild Nov 2015 #169

Sometimes I doubt tazkcmo Nov 2015 #178

Good point, Le Taz! eom MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #179

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #35

It just seems strange that Hillary's supporters don't participate in them, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #38

Maybe a greater percentage of HRC's supporters are older, and use the internet less (n/t) thesquanderer Nov 2015 #43

Maybe more Hillary voters understand what clickbait is.nt sufrommich Nov 2015 #45

Maybe they did click, see this thread eg, where at least one supporter says sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #73

Why waste our time? leftynyc Nov 2015 #68

I don't participate in online polls either. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #70

I don't think that's correct leftynyc Nov 2015 #76

Well, then, I guess that must be it. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #84

Bwahahahahahaha!!!! chervilant Nov 2015 #92

LOL leftynyc Nov 2015 #131

Awwwww... one of those "have to have the last word" folk? chervilant Nov 2015 #163

I must have failed to consider the inherent superiority of Hillary's supporters. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #103

Spare me leftynyc Nov 2015 #122

What do you mean 'they don't participate' ?? They DID participate. There just weren't enough sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #187

I sure hope you don't mind leftynyc Nov 2015 #200

I have voted in just about every election - Federal, State, and Local, since 1968. I never saw.... George II Nov 2015 #125

I was obsessed with online polls when Gore and Kerry redstateblues Nov 2015 #177

Online polls really measure the enthusiasm of the candidate's supporters DJ13 Nov 2015 #180

Bernie is a good guy redstateblues Nov 2015 #189

They do participate. They just lose. What else is new? Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #181

Internet polls can count... thesquanderer Nov 2015 #40

I think the constitution should be amended.... Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #142

Self-selected, non-random polls ARE completely meaningless. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #167

The polls I noted Doubledee Nov 2015 #203

ROFL!!!!! Adrahil Nov 2015 #2

Is it the one JackInGreen Nov 2015 #5

Not my fault if the public, once they hear the candidates on the issues, chooses sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #7

That would be fine if the poll demographics made any sense. Adrahil Nov 2015 #205

A resounding maybe Doubledee Nov 2015 #4

All polls that were available online, are included. There are probably more. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #105

And that jury will remain "out" until February 1, 2016. HubertHeaver Nov 2015 #156

If it worked for President Ron Paul, it will work for Bernie! Renew Deal Nov 2015 #6

It worked for Obama too! He like Bernie understood the new media. Sad to see sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #9

Fuck Ron Paul. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #63

Lol~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #162

+100 !! (NT) PosterChild Nov 2015 #172

Is this anything like the People's Court? boston bean Nov 2015 #8

2008 all over again! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #11

Right! Duval Nov 2015 #41

Not really, your honor Plucketeer Nov 2015 #29

Excellent response. Wish I had thought of it myself! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #144

Lol! Good reply. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #186

When will these media outlets be publishing these sufrommich Nov 2015 #10

Lol, CNN deleted its own poll, are you kidding? They didn't expect so much support sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #12

"CNN deleted its own poll". Yeah,that didn't happen. sufrommich Nov 2015 #15

Sufrommich: SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #33

How condescending of you. Maybe in the end that is what will lose this election for Hillary as it sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #192

I din't support Hillary in 2008 SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #204

Thanks for the correct information. zappaman Nov 2015 #209

Really? Agschmid Nov 2015 #34

Yes, really, and then they deleted comments asking them why. Yeah, I know, we are making it all up! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #184

There is zero way anyone with their heads out of their asses..... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #13

Looks like a majority of the people don't agree with you. Same as 2008, so I'm sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #14

"Looks like a majority of the people don't agree with you." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #21

I hope you are proved wrong. Duval Nov 2015 #46

Love Chapel Hill. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #98

om did much better than at the first debate restorefreedom Nov 2015 #143

FEEL THE CLICKY-CLICKY! onehandle Nov 2015 #16

Hillary's supporters did click. She just didn't have enough of them apparently. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #18

I'm surprised she doesn't have a botherd on retainer. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #28

Her campaign is run by old school political people. They have no idea of the sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #36

Yeah, they evidently don't "get" the Internet. Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #39

LOL!!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2015 #30

...and some have spoken more than once! I did... brooklynite Nov 2015 #20

I'm a Bernie supporter and I only clicked once. So what you're telling is that even sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #23

It isn't technically cheating. Agschmid Nov 2015 #37

1) I didn't cheat... brooklynite Nov 2015 #82

Well, imo, it may not be cheating, but it's not something I would do. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #85

I can vote multiple times for AMERICAN IDOL... brooklynite Nov 2015 #95

Can you break down the demographics polled.... NCTraveler Nov 2015 #22

The participants in these polls are people who watched the dabate. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #25

"The participants in these polls are people who watched the dabate." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #32

They are however, people with an internet connection. JohnnyRingo Nov 2015 #47

I remember it happening with Obama who was, the most liberal candidate available sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #80

You have no idea if they leftynyc Nov 2015 #72

I didn't watch the debate when I voted...nor did I say I did... brooklynite Nov 2015 #190

Which would make you exhibit A leftynyc Nov 2015 #199

Foolish MaggieD Nov 2015 #24

No one said they are 'accurate'. No poll is accurate actually. But they provide a picture sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #26

"the reactions of the public right after they watch a debate." NCTraveler Nov 2015 #31

Lol, okay! I'm waiting to see Hillary winning some online polls and am willing to bet sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #42

I actaully agree with just about everything you have written here. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #48

I don't do FB for all the reasons you mentioned. Never trusted it, it was the first sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #67

I guess that's why the Sanders campaign spent $200K buying the top Twitter trend MaggieD Nov 2015 #90

Please learn how Twitter works... Kentonio Nov 2015 #101

I'm aware of how twitter and all of social media works MaggieD Nov 2015 #111

I'm not insinuating you're stupid. Kentonio Nov 2015 #115

Oh, but I am completely savvy MaggieD Nov 2015 #118

I just explained exactly how the 'Promoted Tweet' system works. Kentonio Nov 2015 #123

Yet it does not explain why he spent $200K on it MaggieD Nov 2015 #128

Your 'point' was a disingenuous one. Kentonio Nov 2015 #140

I don't think it was... MaggieD Nov 2015 #146

What do online polls have to do with anything? Kentonio Nov 2015 #150

Some folks have a hard time admitting when they are wrong. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #176

And it makes them look silly and stupid Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #183

Thank you! He is very tech savvy. Hillary's campaign surprisingly still has not realized that sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #195

Scientific polling is accurate MaggieD Nov 2015 #89

Like many of your posts! Nt Logical Nov 2015 #83

Can you be specific? MaggieD Nov 2015 #88

The Results Are In and the People's Choice is Clearly An Angry Drunken Dwarf! NCTraveler Nov 2015 #100

Woo hoo! MaggieD Nov 2015 #112

Click damnit!! Click like your life depended on it!!!!....nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #44

Lol, Hillary supporters did click, they clicked I am told, more than once and STILL sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #54

Lol JoePhilly Nov 2015 #55

If the election was held tomorrow . . . Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #60

I was just going to ask him the same thing. Great minds I guess ... lol! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #165

Stephen Harper. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #188

lol, it must be ever so much fun to live in Never Never Land! tritsofme Nov 2015 #49

How would we ever know if polls are rigged? Matariki Nov 2015 #50

Bawhaha marym625 Nov 2015 #52

I can't say I believe polls this early in the game Gore1FL Nov 2015 #53

Mostly online "polls", where teenagers, people in Europe or Asia or Africa can "vote", and also.... George II Nov 2015 #56

Clinton lost the debate. Online polls are not what confirms this. The media focus on Clinton's 9/11- Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #57

This^ AlbertCat Nov 2015 #107

And then the one poll glowing about Hill from PPP... SoapBox Nov 2015 #59

........ polly7 Nov 2015 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #109

Washington Times?????? George II Nov 2015 #64

Seriously? And this makes the Greatest page? Gman Nov 2015 #65

If Hills supporters are clicking more than once, aspirant Nov 2015 #75

Good To See You Got These Results Sabrina1 Duckfan Nov 2015 #79

Like last time, yes. The resistance to these simple polls is amazing though. Makes me think sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #166

This is actually zentrum Nov 2015 #81

Good points. Utopian Leftist Nov 2015 #106

I bet there are a lot of Sanders supporters with sore fingers today. Metric System Nov 2015 #93

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #104

They don't need no stinkin' Internet polls. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #110

wow... druidity33 Nov 2015 #182

He's my choice! CharlotteVale Nov 2015 #94

K/R UglyGreed Nov 2015 #99

When Hillary talks like a Republican ... nikto Nov 2015 #102

Those are just internet polls moobu2 Nov 2015 #108

I have never received a single link to a single poll from the Sanders campaign. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #120

Nope. Not a single link or mention, ever, to any internet poll in any communications from Sanders JimDandy Nov 2015 #196

OMG!!!! zappaman Nov 2015 #113

Stalkers are creepy! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #116

No, online self-selecting polls are not representative of all "the people." SunSeeker Nov 2015 #117

... Skidmore Nov 2015 #119

Wow, Hillary supporters are very, very upset over Bernie's online polls. Hey sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #121

Good point. If they mean nothing at all, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2015 #138

Lol! Well, I provided them with a scientific study of the impact of the New Media sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #141

Quote of the day! pinebox Nov 2015 #208

Look. Skidmore Nov 2015 #145

Oh please, 'browbeating' what are you talking about? This is a political discussion forum sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #149

As I said, Skidmore Nov 2015 #153

And telling people they are browbeating you because they post links to polls that sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #157

Your posts are Skidmore Nov 2015 #159

+1 treestar Nov 2015 #161

"This is a political discussion forum" zappaman Nov 2015 #154

And if they mean everything, why the eternal campaign to trumpet it? randome Nov 2015 #147

That image is just dripping with anger. lol. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #215

LOL. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #214

Well I guess Clinton might as well hang it up. Nitram Nov 2015 #133

With your edit. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #139

Washington Times! Fox! Internet Polls!! MADem Nov 2015 #152

That's all you saw? Okay!!! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #155

Wall Street Journal says Bernie Won Melissa G Nov 2015 #158

My favorite denouncing of the online polls is... Kalidurga Nov 2015 #160

Probably from india Sheepshank Nov 2015 #175

Lol, sometimes people don't realize how they are hurting their own candidate. Bernie sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #206

Yep Kalidurga Nov 2015 #212

Don't alert on me Bro*, but that's a bunch of baloney. Darb Nov 2015 #173

Lol, these polls sure get a few people very agitated around here. But my question is sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #213

Sabrina - you make my 840high Nov 2015 #193

Aw, thank you. You and all of Bernie's supporters make mine happy too! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #194

That's wonderful. Cali_Democrat Dec 2015 #216

I'm most interested in seeing how the voting turns out. lovemydog Nov 2015 #197

The people? rjsquirrel Nov 2015 #201

I am voting for Hillary Rodham Clinton.... stonecutter357 Nov 2015 #202

I'm with the People's candidate, Bernie Sanders! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #211