2016 Postmortem

Godhumor

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34. And that is the problem with sponsored polls right there

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 02:23 AM

Nov 2015

Your question is the sensible one.

But this poll produced a margin of error, which means population parameters were used which means the sample was weighted. Based on the results, I am pretty certain it was weighted by perceived current level of support for each candidate.

So more than likely the opt in questions were:

1) Are you a Democrat
2) Are you watching the debate
3) which, if any, candidate do you currently support

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I'm going to say this once as a Clinton supporter: the sponsored PPP poll is bullshit [View all] Godhumor Nov 2015 OP

All will be revealed in the VOTING primary states like NH and SC. willvotesdem Nov 2015 #1

Thanks. I think I've said that before to you, elleng Nov 2015 #2

Thanks for being honest. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #3

First and foremost I am an statistician Godhumor Nov 2015 #4

If I had your knowledge and experience I'd probably be angry all the time. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #6

Heh, it was the first debate wrap up that caused me to take a GDP break last time Godhumor Nov 2015 #11

Thanks, Godhumor! tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #53

Thank you azurnoir Nov 2015 #78

a new funny for you bmus - correct the turntable! nt edgineered Nov 2015 #8

If I admit I know what that is I'll be dating myself. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #12

the record is fine - this turntable though, edgineered Nov 2015 #15

Thank you. n/t TDale313 Nov 2015 #5

Not a statistical analyst, but this is what I spotted so far. jeff47 Nov 2015 #7

& they were screened prior to the debate. nt hopemountain Nov 2015 #50

Screening would be fine if they told us exactly how they were screened jeff47 Nov 2015 #68

I thought PPP was supposed to be a top polling outfit BainsBane Nov 2015 #9

They are. But they also do sponsored polling at customer behest, including directions on conducting Godhumor Nov 2015 #13

Then the sponsored polls aren't accurate? BainsBane Nov 2015 #14

Customers can specify how a poll is conducted, if they wish to do so Godhumor Nov 2015 #16

I see BainsBane Nov 2015 #18

Actually, it might. This is a job they should have turned down Godhumor Nov 2015 #20

So from now on, all PPP polls will be dealt with a heavy dose of skepticism. Weidman Nov 2015 #33

And you just illustrated perfectly why PPP screwed up taking the job Godhumor Nov 2015 #39

It's kind of hard to say now whether PPP is unbiased or not. They have more $$$ to make from HRC! reformist2 Nov 2015 #21

They take money to do polling for any Democratic leaning group or organization Godhumor Nov 2015 #22

I agree that No one should put stock into either the PPP poll or silly internet polls. n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #10

K&R nt. Juicy_Bellows Nov 2015 #17

I won't even bother to look at it in that case. bravenak Nov 2015 #19

Don't. It is not a good night for PPP Godhumor Nov 2015 #23

I hate when Folks jump the shark like that. bravenak Nov 2015 #25

i generally look at polls for fun restorefreedom Nov 2015 #24

What's wrong with their methodology? joshcryer Nov 2015 #26

What were the screening questions? n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #27

"Are you a democrat planning to watch the debate and answer a poll afterward?" joshcryer Nov 2015 #28

They could have screened for people who already have a preferred candidate. n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #30

If they did that then that's trash. joshcryer Nov 2015 #35

It's best to just ignore this poll. n/t tammywammy Nov 2015 #38

And that is the problem with sponsored polls right there Godhumor Nov 2015 #34

Ah-hah. Now you've convinced me. joshcryer Nov 2015 #36

No problem. Easiest response is to shrug and call it a poorly designed poll Godhumor Nov 2015 #43

I always have to understand the thought process. joshcryer Nov 2015 #47

I mentioned in another post, even Nate Silver called PPP out Godhumor Nov 2015 #48

A lot, to be honest, but start with the participants weren't undecided voters Godhumor Nov 2015 #29

Then we need the pre-screen questions. joshcryer Nov 2015 #32

They also didn't rotate candidate names JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #37

question number riversedge Nov 2015 #49

Well, it' served one purpose being posted here... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #31

The poll was designed to trick people Godhumor Nov 2015 #40

Good for you... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #51

I don't do this for a living but I do at times survive professionally based on stats and gathered Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #66

In all honesty, I can't Godhumor Nov 2015 #69

PPP interviewed 510 Democratic primary voters nationally BlueStateLib Nov 2015 #41

Read through the thread for my other responses. It was a cooked poll Godhumor Nov 2015 #42

One source of bias: "Democratic primary voters." hay rick Nov 2015 #44

trying to be neutral here. Bernie has yet to make a positive pitch SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #45

? Was this in right thread? Godhumor Nov 2015 #46

having been blocked by both Clinton and Sanders groups SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #57

Sanders is being completely honest with you (and all of us). stillwaiting Nov 2015 #60

.....! KoKo Nov 2015 #73

Clinton referenced the revolution that didn't come. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2015 #74

well I will give credit where credit is due and you deseve credit for this op Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #52

Agree. 840high Nov 2015 #56

Thanks Gh JackInGreen Nov 2015 #54

Clinton Has To Purchase Twitter Followers billhicks76 Nov 2015 #55

What utter B/S you might not believe this but bigdarryl Nov 2015 #61

The only times I hear about her support is when they release a poll... reformist2 Nov 2015 #62

If we went by yard signs and bumper stickers,we sufrommich Nov 2015 #65

Agreed billhicks76 Nov 2015 #63

If the findings are specious we will find out soon enough DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #58

Many (most?) polls are designed to influence opinion, not measure it. Scuba Nov 2015 #59

Thanks for pointing this out,Godhumor. sufrommich Nov 2015 #64

Exactly ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #67

no, not in light of this poll.... riversedge Nov 2015 #70

A second similar result doesn't excuse the sins of the first Godhumor Nov 2015 #71

Flash polls are inherently problematic DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #76

Thank you for an honest professional opinion. Hepburn Nov 2015 #72

Yet its results are confirmed by a CBS poll thus validating the scientific method DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #75

Similar results does not mean same rigor Godhumor Nov 2015 #77

Kick! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #79

This message was self-deleted by its author Cal33 Nov 2015 #80

I tip my hat UglyGreed Nov 2015 #81