I think you're trying too hard to get down in the weeds on (Reply #68)

In the discussion thread: PPP poll Nov 14 Who Won DEM Debate? Clinton 67%, Sanders 20%, O'M 7% [View all]

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MADem (135,425 posts)

68. I think you're trying too hard to get down in the weeds on

fast results of a snapshot poll.

Look--you can disregard this information all you want. I'm sure you can find an "internet poll" that will give you the results you wish for, and that'll make you all happy!

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PPP poll Nov 14 Who Won DEM Debate? Clinton 67%, Sanders 20%, O'M 7% [View all]	riversedge	Nov 2015	OP
but we know polls don't matter	dlwickham	Nov 2015	#1
Not when they're researched on behalf of a candidate's SuperPAC, like this one.	HerbChestnut	Nov 2015	#37
Kinda funny...	tecelote	Nov 2015	#79
k&r	RandySF	Nov 2015	#2
Oh hey!	Agschmid	Nov 2015	#3
that was fast	hill2016	Nov 2015	#4
Answer - they prequalified the respondents and had them standing by for the followup.	brooklynite	Nov 2015	#44
How can they do that so fast?	DURHAM D	Nov 2015	#5
It was an internet poll!	reformist2	Nov 2015	#6
PPP interviewed 510 Democratic primary voters nationally by telephone	brooklynite	Nov 2015	#11
Land line?	MrMickeysMom	Nov 2015	#54
No it was not.	DURHAM D	Nov 2015	#12
no dice for you.	riversedge	Nov 2015	#16
That is an incorrect statement. nt	Cali_Democrat	Nov 2015	#24
Uh, no, it wasn't.	MineralMan	Nov 2015	#93
+1,000,000,000,000,000	yeoman6987	Nov 2015	#7
They were prescreened on Thursday and Friday.	JimDandy	Nov 2015	#15
Among "Very Liberal"...	brooklynite	Nov 2015	#8
It wasn't even close. The Presidential one held the center podium.	MADem	Nov 2015	#9
I think you meant one of them	hill2016	Nov 2015	#13
Both Sanders and O'Malley were trying to land punches--they didn't do the job, though.	MADem	Nov 2015	#22
K & R	DURHAM D	Nov 2015	#14
They devoted their energies toward tag teaming Hillary and were not focused on the	riversedge	Nov 2015	#20
That's it, exactly. It was almost like they were more interested in chipping off a bit than	MADem	Nov 2015	#30
Gee...you forgot to quote this part from their report	jeff47	Nov 2015	#10
Hahaha yesss	jkbRN	Nov 2015	#18
last line of the article, too	restorefreedom	Nov 2015	#19
Didja also notice they did not mention rotating the candidates in the questions?	jeff47	Nov 2015	#26
but its scientific!	restorefreedom	Nov 2015	#34
They also forgot to publish the screening questions (nt)	jeff47	Nov 2015	#38
! nt	restorefreedom	Nov 2015	#40
Yep. Was surprised to see that. Kind of undermines the PPP brand realizing who bought	think	Nov 2015	#21
LMAO!	beam me up scottie	Nov 2015	#25
Wow, somebody's going to be the laughingstock of the twitterverse. n/t	winter is coming	Nov 2015	#47
Finger on the scale ...	Jarqui	Nov 2015	#67
It was sponsored by Correct the Record....	jkbRN	Nov 2015	#17
So?	riversedge	Nov 2015	#23
Well, it would explain why they didn't run the poll properly	jeff47	Nov 2015	#27
David Brock's SUPERPAC paid for this poll? OMG! LOL!	reformist2	Nov 2015	#28
You know, one of the SuperPACs working for Hillary	HerbChestnut	Nov 2015	#31
For crying out loud...this is the kind of manipulative stuff that gives politics a bad name...lol...	EndElectoral	Nov 2015	#42
That's even more hilarious...	MrMickeysMom	Nov 2015	#55
Should be Corrupt the Record. n/t	winter is coming	Nov 2015	#89
"This research was conducted on behalf of Correct The Record."	jfern	Nov 2015	#29
You're saying PPP is unreliable, then? OK, we'll disregard anything positive they have to say	MADem	Nov 2015	#33
Well, PPP didn't bother to publish the screening questions	jeff47	Nov 2015	#35
How do you know they won't/didn't do that?	MADem	Nov 2015	#50
I read their report. Link's at the bottom of the press release quoted in the OP.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#53
That question tells me this--they didn't include	MADem	Nov 2015	#56
Except that wasn't in their methodology.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#60
I think you're trying too hard to get down in the weeds on	MADem	Nov 2015	#68
No, this isn't a "snapshot" poll. That would include a random sample.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#69
Well, is there a link from Nate with his objections? nt	MADem	Nov 2015	#81
It's in this thread, with a lot of the other problems with the poll	jeff47	Nov 2015	#83
i generally disregard all polls	restorefreedom	Nov 2015	#36
I'm saying that polls conducted for a candidates SuperPAC tend to be rather biased	jfern	Nov 2015	#39
And you know this, how? You're saying, then, that PPP is worthless	MADem	Nov 2015	#49
Polling paid for by a candidate is never taken very seriously	jfern	Nov 2015	#52
Where's Bernie's glowing internal poll, then?	MADem	Nov 2015	#57
Bernie doesn't have a SuperPAC paying for biased polls	jfern	Nov 2015	#59
He didn't have "campaign advisers" either...until he did. nt	MADem	Nov 2015	#61
That's a non sequitor	jfern	Nov 2015	#63
His internal polls is for Bernie's eyes only.	Weidman	Nov 2015	#65
Nyuck, nyuck!!! nt	MADem	Nov 2015	#82
WHOO HOO!!!	lunamagica	Nov 2015	#32
Why wasn't there an immediate poll after the first debate	Cheese Sandwich	Nov 2015	#41
Because Clinton didn't pay for one. She paid for one tonight.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#45
OMG	Cheese Sandwich	Nov 2015	#48
That's a blatant falsehood.	MohRokTah	Nov 2015	#71
Hey pal, if you really believe that..	Weidman	Nov 2015	#73
Are you actually inferring a Democratic candidate committed a felony?????????	MohRokTah	Nov 2015	#84
Some would say at least one. Not me though...	Elmer S. E. Dump	Nov 2015	#87
The only reason this is not illegal	TM99	Nov 2015	#88
How could that poll say she won it handily and all these polls say the opposite?	Jarqui	Nov 2015	#43
When every website has a poll showing that Bernie won by a 70 point margin, it's absurd to ignore it	reformist2	Nov 2015	#46
oh yeah--those internet polls!!	riversedge	Nov 2015	#51
Apparently sponsored by Correct the Record.	Weidman	Nov 2015	#58
Conducted by PPP who are the most accurate.	stevenleser	Nov 2015	#64
Read the report.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#66
In other words, you don't have any evidence there is something wrong with the poll	stevenleser	Nov 2015	#70
Uh, those are problems with the poll.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#72
Those are not problems with the poll, they are lack of documentation so far	stevenleser	Nov 2015	#76
Because PPP doesn't know how to describe polling methodology in their reports?	jeff47	Nov 2015	#77
No the bullshit is desperately attacking the most reliable agency because you	stevenleser	Nov 2015	#78
No, that's not all this is. Read the damn report yourself.	jeff47	Nov 2015	#80
So if a Republican pays for a poll, you'd trust it?	jfern	Nov 2015	#75
That is not reality. No fucking way. If anything it was O'Malley	Bread and Circus	Nov 2015	#62
That's about what I would have guessed after watching the debate.	stevenleser	Nov 2015	#74
Post removed	Post removed	Nov 2015	#85
b.s. 99% of those polled love 199% of what Clinton had to say and love supreme leader Kim Il Jong	Bread and Circus	Nov 2015	#86
The one inevitable post on DGP is that polls that folks don't agree with are bad polls....	Sancho	Nov 2015	#90
K AND R!	JaneyVee	Nov 2015	#91
I gave Sanders the win for $15 Federal minimum wage hike, Mrs. Clintons $12 is NOT enough.	Sunlei	Nov 2015	#92
Supported by CBS poll.	DCBob	Nov 2015	#94
Part of the problem with this poll's accuracy I might suggest is the age demographics:	Jarqui	Nov 2015	#95
Lol DEBUNKED by a Hillary supporter yet	azurnoir	Nov 2015	#96

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