2016 Postmortem

MADem

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56. That question tells me this--they didn't include

Sun Nov 15, 2015, 01:43 AM

Nov 2015

the results of anyone who didn't watch. If the person said NO, they went on to the next one.

Their "universe" was "People who watched the debate."

Why would they poll people who didn't watch, when they want to gauge how well the candidates did?

I mean, come on--that's basic.

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PPP poll Nov 14 Who Won DEM Debate? Clinton 67%, Sanders 20%, O'M 7% [View all] riversedge Nov 2015 OP

but we know polls don't matter dlwickham Nov 2015 #1

Not when they're researched on behalf of a candidate's SuperPAC, like this one. HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #37

Kinda funny... tecelote Nov 2015 #79

k&r RandySF Nov 2015 #2

Oh hey! Agschmid Nov 2015 #3

that was fast hill2016 Nov 2015 #4

Answer - they prequalified the respondents and had them standing by for the followup. brooklynite Nov 2015 #44

How can they do that so fast? DURHAM D Nov 2015 #5

It was an internet poll! reformist2 Nov 2015 #6

PPP interviewed 510 Democratic primary voters nationally by telephone brooklynite Nov 2015 #11

Land line? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #54

No it was not. DURHAM D Nov 2015 #12

no dice for you. riversedge Nov 2015 #16

That is an incorrect statement. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #24

Uh, no, it wasn't. MineralMan Nov 2015 #93

+1,000,000,000,000,000 yeoman6987 Nov 2015 #7

They were prescreened on Thursday and Friday. JimDandy Nov 2015 #15

Among "Very Liberal"... brooklynite Nov 2015 #8

It wasn't even close. The Presidential one held the center podium. MADem Nov 2015 #9

I think you meant one of them hill2016 Nov 2015 #13

Both Sanders and O'Malley were trying to land punches--they didn't do the job, though. MADem Nov 2015 #22

K & R DURHAM D Nov 2015 #14

They devoted their energies toward tag teaming Hillary and were not focused on the riversedge Nov 2015 #20

That's it, exactly. It was almost like they were more interested in chipping off a bit than MADem Nov 2015 #30

Gee...you forgot to quote this part from their report jeff47 Nov 2015 #10

Hahaha yesss jkbRN Nov 2015 #18

last line of the article, too restorefreedom Nov 2015 #19

Didja also notice they did not mention rotating the candidates in the questions? jeff47 Nov 2015 #26

but its scientific! restorefreedom Nov 2015 #34

They also forgot to publish the screening questions (nt) jeff47 Nov 2015 #38

! nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #40

Yep. Was surprised to see that. Kind of undermines the PPP brand realizing who bought think Nov 2015 #21

LMAO! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #25

Wow, somebody's going to be the laughingstock of the twitterverse. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #47

Finger on the scale ... Jarqui Nov 2015 #67

It was sponsored by Correct the Record.... jkbRN Nov 2015 #17

So? riversedge Nov 2015 #23

Well, it would explain why they didn't run the poll properly jeff47 Nov 2015 #27

David Brock's SUPERPAC paid for this poll? OMG! LOL! reformist2 Nov 2015 #28

You know, one of the SuperPACs working for Hillary HerbChestnut Nov 2015 #31

For crying out loud...this is the kind of manipulative stuff that gives politics a bad name...lol... EndElectoral Nov 2015 #42

That's even more hilarious... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #55

Should be Corrupt the Record. n/t winter is coming Nov 2015 #89

"This research was conducted on behalf of Correct The Record." jfern Nov 2015 #29

You're saying PPP is unreliable, then? OK, we'll disregard anything positive they have to say MADem Nov 2015 #33

Well, PPP didn't bother to publish the screening questions jeff47 Nov 2015 #35

How do you know they won't/didn't do that? MADem Nov 2015 #50

I read their report. Link's at the bottom of the press release quoted in the OP. jeff47 Nov 2015 #53

That question tells me this--they didn't include MADem Nov 2015 #56

Except that wasn't in their methodology. jeff47 Nov 2015 #60

I think you're trying too hard to get down in the weeds on MADem Nov 2015 #68

No, this isn't a "snapshot" poll. That would include a random sample. jeff47 Nov 2015 #69

Well, is there a link from Nate with his objections? nt MADem Nov 2015 #81

It's in this thread, with a lot of the other problems with the poll jeff47 Nov 2015 #83

i generally disregard all polls restorefreedom Nov 2015 #36

I'm saying that polls conducted for a candidates SuperPAC tend to be rather biased jfern Nov 2015 #39

And you know this, how? You're saying, then, that PPP is worthless MADem Nov 2015 #49

Polling paid for by a candidate is never taken very seriously jfern Nov 2015 #52

Where's Bernie's glowing internal poll, then? MADem Nov 2015 #57

Bernie doesn't have a SuperPAC paying for biased polls jfern Nov 2015 #59

He didn't have "campaign advisers" either...until he did. nt MADem Nov 2015 #61

That's a non sequitor jfern Nov 2015 #63

His internal polls is for Bernie's eyes only. Weidman Nov 2015 #65

Nyuck, nyuck!!! nt MADem Nov 2015 #82

WHOO HOO!!! lunamagica Nov 2015 #32

Why wasn't there an immediate poll after the first debate Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #41

Because Clinton didn't pay for one. She paid for one tonight. jeff47 Nov 2015 #45

OMG Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #48

That's a blatant falsehood. MohRokTah Nov 2015 #71

Hey pal, if you really believe that.. Weidman Nov 2015 #73

Are you actually inferring a Democratic candidate committed a felony????????? MohRokTah Nov 2015 #84

Some would say at least one. Not me though... Elmer S. E. Dump Nov 2015 #87

The only reason this is not illegal TM99 Nov 2015 #88

How could that poll say she won it handily and all these polls say the opposite? Jarqui Nov 2015 #43

When every website has a poll showing that Bernie won by a 70 point margin, it's absurd to ignore it reformist2 Nov 2015 #46

oh yeah--those internet polls!! riversedge Nov 2015 #51

Apparently sponsored by Correct the Record. Weidman Nov 2015 #58

Conducted by PPP who are the most accurate. stevenleser Nov 2015 #64

Read the report. jeff47 Nov 2015 #66

In other words, you don't have any evidence there is something wrong with the poll stevenleser Nov 2015 #70

Uh, those are problems with the poll. jeff47 Nov 2015 #72

Those are not problems with the poll, they are lack of documentation so far stevenleser Nov 2015 #76

Because PPP doesn't know how to describe polling methodology in their reports? jeff47 Nov 2015 #77

No the bullshit is desperately attacking the most reliable agency because you stevenleser Nov 2015 #78

No, that's not all this is. Read the damn report yourself. jeff47 Nov 2015 #80

So if a Republican pays for a poll, you'd trust it? jfern Nov 2015 #75

That is not reality. No fucking way. If anything it was O'Malley Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #62

That's about what I would have guessed after watching the debate. stevenleser Nov 2015 #74

Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #85

b.s. 99% of those polled love 199% of what Clinton had to say and love supreme leader Kim Il Jong Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #86

The one inevitable post on DGP is that polls that folks don't agree with are bad polls.... Sancho Nov 2015 #90

K AND R! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #91

I gave Sanders the win for $15 Federal minimum wage hike, Mrs. Clintons $12 is NOT enough. Sunlei Nov 2015 #92

Supported by CBS poll. DCBob Nov 2015 #94

Part of the problem with this poll's accuracy I might suggest is the age demographics: Jarqui Nov 2015 #95

Lol DEBUNKED by a Hillary supporter yet azurnoir Nov 2015 #96