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randys1

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26. Not nasty to Obama, COMPLETE SHUTDOWN OF THE UNIVERSE more like it, it CANT get any worse

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Wed Nov 4, 2015, 08:19 PM

Nov 2015

than vowing to oppose ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING he supports.

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Sanders or Clinton: Who would be more effective with a Republican Congress? [View all] KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 OP

I think the republicans in Congress will actively oppose both. Turbineguy Nov 2015 #1

I agree with your take on the Republicans and wish merely to note that KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #3

I agree fredamae Nov 2015 #29

I think that if compromise is needed then the one more willing to compromise will work better. upaloopa Nov 2015 #2

Thanks for your thoughtful response. This question continues KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #9

I don't think its a good question really BootinUp Nov 2015 #4

Hmm - and how do you answer your better question? Not meaning to snark but KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #10

Its open to debate, but that is what the primary is for. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #12

Sanders. He knows how to say "NO". Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #5

Possibly Sanders PATRICK Nov 2015 #6

They hate Clinton - if you think they've TBF Nov 2015 #7

Not nasty to Obama, COMPLETE SHUTDOWN OF THE UNIVERSE more like it, it CANT get any worse randys1 Nov 2015 #26

The Hate for HRC (and Bill) has been fredamae Nov 2015 #31

Clinton told us that she's proud to call the Republicans 'the enemy'. Dawgs Nov 2015 #8

Teabaggers/GOP will only be more effective with INVESTIGATING CLINTON. They have a visceral hatred in_cog_ni_to Nov 2015 #11

Bernie has been in Congress for decades longest Indy ever bkkyosemite Nov 2015 #13

So what is your friend's case? Bernin4U Nov 2015 #14

Great question. I am on this little tablet right now, which KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #15

Exactly. A "centrist" is a lose-lose! Bernin4U Nov 2015 #16

One thing is guaranteed: Maedhros Nov 2015 #28

If Hillary is anything like Bill (and so far she uses his policy stances quite a bit)... berni_mccoy Nov 2015 #17

MARTIN O'MALLEY, Actions not Words. elleng Nov 2015 #18

+1. I've had pretty much all day to peruse O'Malleys site. He's done it riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #40

+1, rider! elleng Nov 2015 #41

He's not polarizing. riderinthestorm Nov 2015 #43

Absolutely, he's NOT polarizing! elleng Nov 2015 #45

Exactly. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2015 #49

HI, MAN! elleng Nov 2015 #50

No one. They will not deal with any President other than their own. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #19

Hillary has the backing of entire Dem party... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #20

That is a valid point you raise and I really appreciate it. Made KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #65

Sanders hands down AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #21

I don't know about Congress. Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #22

Based on record (and Republicans themselves), no doubt it's Bernie Sanders Smart Brother Nov 2015 #23

Define "more effective" lostnfound Nov 2015 #24

Good point. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Nov 2015 #47

good point you raise about defining terms. I suppose compromise is the KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #61

If Bernie is elected the political dynamic in Congress will be much positively affected Uncle Joe Nov 2015 #25

It's not the Republicans who will buck Sanders HassleCat Nov 2015 #27

I think a a better question is: Which candidate will be better WORKING AGAINST the Republicans? Maedhros Nov 2015 #30

^^^This^^^ yourout Nov 2015 #38

Correction: Obama tried to occupy the ground the Republicans were supposed to be standing on. Smart Brother Nov 2015 #51

The ACA was designed to be a political football, the primary purpose of which Maedhros Nov 2015 #59

I readily take your point. our system is premised on compromise. When KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #64

Our system is broken. Maedhros Nov 2015 #73

Cllinton worked with both Republicans and Democrats in her time as a Senator, she has an agenda and Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #32

Only Nixon could go to China 1939 Nov 2015 #33

Answer: neither. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #34

Clinton.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #35

Wishful thinking appears to be the norm for many around here Smart Brother Nov 2015 #44

To answer your questions: Rebkeh Nov 2015 #36

This one is easy....Clinton by a mile. And most of it would not be good. yourout Nov 2015 #37

Reality proves you wrong. Smart Brother Nov 2015 #42

Neither and if Clinton is elected she won't have time to work with Congress. Vinca Nov 2015 #39

Bernie Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #46

A Republican Congress will not cooperate with a Democratic President Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #48

While I think my question is important, I think your KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #66

Not having a Repub congress would be effective. oldandhappy Nov 2015 #52

Bernie has more legislative experience. ViseGrip Nov 2015 #53

Bernie Kalidurga Nov 2015 #54

Working "with" a party that refuses any compromise means that Hillary DJ13 Nov 2015 #55

hillary would be more able to compromise drray23 Nov 2015 #56

yeah, it seems as if my post is generating some interesting KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #71

Sanders has been in Congress since 1991 SheilaT Nov 2015 #57

Neither. one_voice Nov 2015 #58

To be effective with congress, one needs to start with the Democrats BainsBane Nov 2015 #60

A truly awesome analysis -- much appreciated - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #67

They'll be horrible with either Sanders or Clinton gollygee Nov 2015 #62

Agreed. These are dark days for the republic, but maybe not quite as dark as 1858-59. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #63

I can't really say, but obviously Sanders hasn't been very effective with his Democratic peers... George II Nov 2015 #68

I honestly am unsure what value endorsements have. I think it is KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #69

But since they're in Congress now (and there are roughly 130 Democratic Representatives... George II Nov 2015 #70

Or whom they handicap as the probable winner :) - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #72

The bottom line is that roughly 150 current members of the House/Senate...... George II Nov 2015 #74

Well put. It will remain for voters, if they so choose, to KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #78

Not a factor ibegurpard Nov 2015 #75

You do admit, I trust, that there will be 4, and probably 8 KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #79

Clinton will be super effective TheFarseer Nov 2015 #76

Excellent questions! BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #77

They would just laugh their asses off if Bernie were to somehow get himself elected moobu2 Nov 2015 #80

And what do you foresee from that pack of scalawags, charlatans and demagogues, should KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #81