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That explains her inability to take substantive positions on no brainer issues AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #1
"Very liberal" voters in Iowa prefer Hillary over Bernie (48% to 30%) Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #2
Then they're supporting a moderate Republican Armstead Nov 2015 #3
The vast majority of people who identify themselves as Republican despise Hillary and Obama Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #12
The redefining of every aspect of life. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #17
Because personality and team allegiance trumps issues Armstead Nov 2015 #19
GOPers despise Obama because of issues Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #34
You have to seperate Republicans and issues Armstead Nov 2015 #47
Yet he gave them more than they dared ask for, and permanently so AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #108
these people would be tea baggers,not republicans. wendylaroux Nov 2015 #26
So the 48% of people who identify themselves as very liberal in Iowa and support Hillary Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #35
whatever you say wendylaroux Nov 2015 #39
Most delusional post in the last month SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #52
really? wendylaroux Nov 2015 #54
Yes, they do SCantiGOP Nov 2015 #68
So, like most Hil voters it's not about the issues then? elehhhhna Nov 2015 #116
I agree. thucythucy Nov 2015 #121
Nobody believes you EVER were considering Sanders ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #153
I believe him. thucythucy Nov 2015 #209
Do you believe Clinton when she says she's a progmoderate? ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #213
Of course we don't know how they are defining "very liberal". nt dflprincess Nov 2015 #172
No, and no. It's the Democratic Party and she has been a loyal Democrat for decades. George II Nov 2015 #165
Bill and Hillary helped push politics to the right AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #6
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #8
She is to Bills right AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #97
Voted to Hide that garbage UglyGreed Nov 2015 #118
I just love how the "jury" members jump and down when a post they don't like gets hidden. ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #154
This was a personal attack UglyGreed Nov 2015 #188
Oops....another inconvenient truth - thanks! George II Nov 2015 #164
And of course you are wrong, she is a hard core liberal. these RW talking points Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #4
Oh my eyes! Phlem Nov 2015 #126
She will still represent the people of the US. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #128
But mostly Goldman Sachs first. Phlem Nov 2015 #135
No substance to RW talking points. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #144
I see your ridiculousness know no bounds. Phlem Nov 2015 #146
Hows about this substance? Phlem Nov 2015 #149
You're wasting your time providing facts and substance... Yurovsky Nov 2015 #186
At least this one went silent. The others Phlem Nov 2015 #192
I spend my time on functional activity. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #212
She's not a "hard core liberal." She's an oligarch. And you support her. senz Nov 2015 #194
Oh, really you say she is an oligarch, interesting, ruling by a few, wow. Where do you get Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #220
An Anti-LABOR, Free Trading, Deregulating, Wall Street loving "hard core Libral"? bvar22 Nov 2015 #197
why is Hillary a better option? optimist.spencer Nov 2015 #202
Proud, Strong, progmoderate, last I heard! ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #214
Bullhockey! VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #5
But ... butt ... ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #158
That chart looks like those put out by Libertarians. senz Nov 2015 #195
I asked you not to PM me but you PM'd me anyway. senz Nov 2015 #196
It's to the point that Obamacare is considered liberal but was actually Mitt Romneys healthcare plan AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #7
What point..... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #9
And when did HRC marry Barack Obama? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #11
"Mitt Romney's healthcare plan". The one Bernie voted yes on? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #18
I'd suggest you read a little bit about Sanders position and role in the Obamacare debate Armstead Nov 2015 #22
How did he vote? JaneyVee Nov 2015 #23
I'd suggest you read....etc. Armstead Nov 2015 #30
Reading and research? WTF is that! Phlem Nov 2015 #127
Please supply the list of elected federal GOP members dsc Nov 2015 #10
The- ruffburr Nov 2015 #13
neither is bernie saturnsring Nov 2015 #14
a. Nonsense b. randys1 Nov 2015 #15
Unless you are opposed to all Capitalism VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #55
Definitions are easy to manipulate, my point is simple. randys1 Nov 2015 #61
That is not my definition...its theirs... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #62
This is just getting sad now. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #16
Sad. But amusing in a way. NurseJackie Nov 2015 #25
I'm genuinely starting to feel bad. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #28
So, Bernie is a relic from the 1950's? NurseJackie Nov 2015 #20
Bernie is the new Estes Kefauver postatomic Nov 2015 #180
Estes Kefauver was a great man Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #191
No, a "relic" from the pre-DLC, even pre-Reagan, days. senz Nov 2015 #181
This is just painful mythology Nov 2015 #21
Try to convince todays Republicans with that bull shit n/t doc03 Nov 2015 #24
Sounds like Fox News posting here all to often FloridaBlues Nov 2015 #27
Bullshit still_one Nov 2015 #29
Brought to you by Fox News leftofcool Nov 2015 #31
Not quite EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #32
Bullshit.... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #56
bullshit EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #89
You are incorrect on her stances...but you know that don't you? Evergreen Emerald Nov 2015 #124
I'm not EdwardBernays Nov 2015 #184
you are spot on Locrian Nov 2015 #207
FFS - I'm a Bernie supporter who finds this absurd onenote Nov 2015 #33
+1 Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #40
Thank you for interjecting a little Skidmore Nov 2015 #41
Indeed. lovemydog Nov 2015 #45
Fonzie was so cool (before that) lol. BootinUp Nov 2015 #64
HA! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #75
Yup, sure has. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #49
We dont have to say that....Bernie himself says it... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #59
So if Bernie was to end up with the nomination would you refuse to support him? onenote Nov 2015 #74
Well said mcar Nov 2015 #79
Uh try a little research. New Democrats = Third Way. Phlem Nov 2015 #133
And are all the folks that supported and worked for Bill Clinton onenote Nov 2015 #148
OK then denial. Phlem Nov 2015 #151
Exactly what am in denial about? onenote Nov 2015 #155
"This forum has jumped the shark and then some." tammywammy Nov 2015 #178
sad sad sad!!!!! alot wendylaroux Nov 2015 #36
You should inform the BBC, The New York Times lovemydog Nov 2015 #37
+1 BootinUp Nov 2015 #48
Bill and Hillary and the President are Democrats. Skidmore Nov 2015 #38
+++10000 VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #66
i think these kinds of discussions show restorefreedom Nov 2015 #42
well said. n/t retrowire Nov 2015 #86
:) nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #169
I think this is starting to dawn on party stalwarts, and it scares them. frylock Nov 2015 #167
yup. the party is over heh. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #168
I think Bill, Hillary and Obama are moderate democrats (nt) bigwillq Nov 2015 #43
You can think it.....doesnt make it true.. VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #67
I plead guilty bigwillq Nov 2015 #76
Birds of a feather, and all that ... Scuba Nov 2015 #44
And Sanders honeymooned in the Soviet Union. Renew Deal Nov 2015 #60
George Wallace, whippersnapper HomerRamone Nov 2015 #119
Okay I'll bite. It's George Wallace. jhart3333 Nov 2015 #125
I remember him Renew Deal Nov 2015 #147
This has been debunked numerous times. Sanders was there representing a group of women. DhhD Nov 2015 #131
Hillary is a Democrat. Bill is a Democrat. Bernie Sanders is no Democrat. bravenak Nov 2015 #46
Thank you! NurseJackie Nov 2015 #57
Over and over! You can count on me to say it! bravenak Nov 2015 #63
Right here with ya... VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #69
Well, I did feel the Bern. It was not that awesome. bravenak Nov 2015 #85
Bill and Hillary are DOMAcrats. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #77
And Bernie is a mass incarcadindependent. bravenak Nov 2015 #91
Thank you, for letting me know I should never take anything you Lil Missy Nov 2015 #50
Obama is not a moderate republican book_worm Nov 2015 #51
Then why did he say it? zipplewrath Nov 2015 #110
Then WTF did he PUSH TPA so hard, and use his REPUBLICAN friends to pass it? cascadiance Nov 2015 #189
Risible. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #53
So, I guess there are 20 M Republicans in the Democratic Party as well? brooklynite Nov 2015 #58
No, the Democratic Party has moved too far rightward. TDale313 Nov 2015 #65
How do you figure? VanillaRhapsody Nov 2015 #71
Well, that's what she said herself. She doesn't view herself as a Liberal, nor do many other people. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #70
She said she's not a Democrat and that she's a moderate Republican? onenote Nov 2015 #82
Your thread was alerted. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2015 #72
.. mcar Nov 2015 #73
Another Tea Party Purity Test thread. MrWendel Nov 2015 #78
This post nails it. We are where we are. Broward Nov 2015 #80
This smacks of desperation. MineralMan Nov 2015 #81
Good post. Very true. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #83
And yet the polls of Democratic voters are running in her favor Gothmog Nov 2015 #84
Reagan Democrat? L0oniX Nov 2015 #87
LOL, best satire I've seen today. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #88
The 'DLC' card is SO tired. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #90
Bernie is not a Democrat. SansACause Nov 2015 #92
So if Bernie gets the nod, the superdelegates will all go home without voting? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #95
How? SansACause Nov 2015 #99
By winning more state delegates AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #100
You misunderstand the process. SansACause Nov 2015 #106
You misunderstand the process AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #111
Sigh. SansACause Nov 2015 #138
Bernie has none? Beast Boy Nov 2015 #174
"By winning more state delegates" brooklynite Nov 2015 #156
Nah, they're Democrats. Maedhros Nov 2015 #93
When will Hillary ditch the right wing beliefs and join the Democratic Party? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #94
When will Bernie ditch the far left and join the Democratic party? wyldwolf Nov 2015 #96
He is barely to the left of center AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #104
He's way left of Center but more importantly, admittedly NOT a Democrat wyldwolf Nov 2015 #105
Welcome to the 21st century. Where did you come from? The 1960's? n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #98
Can I join the game? ... Hillary isn't human. CaptainTruth Nov 2015 #101
that story... wyldwolf Nov 2015 #107
BINGO!!!! Ferd Berfel Nov 2015 #102
OK you hate Hillary, WE GET IT already Skittles Nov 2015 #103
That's how I see the Clintons and Obama. nt valerief Nov 2015 #109
That's why Sanders won't win. lovemydog Nov 2015 #177
X10! zentrum Nov 2015 #112
Yes she UglyGreed Nov 2015 #113
Okay. That went well. Now let's all define hip hop. lovemydog Nov 2015 #114
A Lot Of People Don't Seem To Understand What You're Saying. NonMetro Nov 2015 #115
This is idiotic flamebait redstateblues Nov 2015 #117
Up is down, left is right, no is yes...... Sheepshank Nov 2015 #120
Boom! Phlem Nov 2015 #122
K&R! Phlem Nov 2015 #123
I doubt FDR, JFK or LBJ would pass your "progressive" litmus test if they were alive today. thucythucy Nov 2015 #129
nice post. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #130
Just to be clear: thucythucy Nov 2015 #141
One of my pet peeves around here and the tubes in general BootinUp Nov 2015 #175
posts like the OP betray a serious lack of knowledge on the Democratic party. wyldwolf Nov 2015 #134
I take almost nothing I see on DU literally. I refuse to believe people actually believe JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #162
Hillary is a Democrat, I will be voting for a Democrat in the DNC primary. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #132
Hillary like Bill and Obama!!!?? lobodons Nov 2015 #136
Bernie has actually said "I am not a Democrat" oberliner Nov 2015 #137
Exactly. SansACause Nov 2015 #140
Because maybe a lot of Democrats will decide he reflects what they want. onenote Nov 2015 #163
Because Bernie represents true democratic values fbc Nov 2015 #205
So will a lot of other people if Hillary Clinton is the nominee. fbc Nov 2015 #204
People will decide not to be Democrats? oberliner Nov 2015 #216
True Dat. RoccoR5955 Nov 2015 #139
Hillary's to the right of Obama, and Obama... MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #142
No True Scotsman fallacy oberliner Nov 2015 #143
There ya go !!!! ish of the hammer Nov 2015 #145
Bernie should run against Obama. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #150
Sure, let's have a little more divisiveness. senz Nov 2015 #161
Isn't that the point of the OP? JoePhilly Nov 2015 #171
The OP holds up an ideal and shows how a candidate falls short senz Nov 2015 #179
You give the OP too much credit. JoePhilly Nov 2015 #187
I think you're being disingenuous. senz Nov 2015 #193
Let's see last time I checked my registration I'm a Democrat ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #152
Obama may not be perfect, but he's a damn sight better than the Clintons. senz Nov 2015 #157
The DLC for YEARS kept claiming they were right due to Clinton's presidency. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #159
And another big factor in the DLC's rise to power was the Koch Brothers funding... cascadiance Nov 2015 #190
One word relayerbob Nov 2015 #160
so very true, but don't expect ignorant righties to figure that out stupidicus Nov 2015 #166
Cool. Story... SharpProgress Nov 2015 #170
Everyone here who's sensitive should remember that its the Hillary posters who questioned Bernie AZ Progressive Nov 2015 #173
I think your post is ridiculous nonsense. C'mon. Get a grip. You're out in TeaLeft field. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #176
Only if Abe Lincoln was "TeaLeft." senz Nov 2015 #182
Points for citing her neocon status. n/t cprise Nov 2015 #183
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means... Donald Ian Rankin Nov 2015 #185
name me one "true Democrat" President since FDR. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #198
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Nov 2015 #199
But has Bernie ever said he is a Democrat? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #200
Ha! " build and strengthen the party" LOL fbc Nov 2015 #203
nope...he is about to do the party enough damage that it will take 20 years to repair Sheepshank Nov 2015 #208
Sorry, it is the compromising moderates that are the dinosaurs fbc Nov 2015 #210
Interesting (but unrelated) post. You should start a new OP with that. :) n/t Sheepshank Nov 2015 #211
How so? cui bono Nov 2015 #217
That explains her popularity with establishment democrats fbc Nov 2015 #201
Then and now HassleCat Nov 2015 #206
+100000000 n/t whathehell Nov 2015 #215
Proud to be the 100th rec! Dustlawyer Nov 2015 #218
Clinton is a moderate Democrat Tarc Nov 2015 #219
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