2016 Postmortem

BlueCaliDem

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112. He self-identifies as a Democratic Socialist. Look up what that means.

Mon Nov 2, 2015, 03:41 AM

Nov 2015

Democrats, like President Obama and Hillary Clinton, are Social Democrats. Democratic Socialist and Social Democrat are not the same thing. They're not synonyms.

The Democratic Party is in line with the social democracy of Denmark that Sanders wrongfully uses as an example to explain what he is. He calls himself a Democratic Socialist but says he wants America to be more like Denmark??

For his information, Denmark is a social democracy, not a democratic socialist society. Democratic Socialists, like Bernie Sanders and the Democratic Socialists of America who support his candidacy, want to eradicate capitalism and replace it with socialism. That makes him a pure socialist. That's not a smear. That's a fact.

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Hillary Clinton supporters can't attack Bernie Sanders on policy [View all] gobears10 Nov 2015 OP

We are winning there is no need to attack Sanders. upaloopa Nov 2015 #1

Exactly. So why are you attacking him? Why do you call him a racist or sexist if you don't need to rhett o rick Nov 2015 #7

It is not a friggen football game. If you 'win', the country loses. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #105

It's too bad they can't understand that. senz Nov 2015 #109

^^THIS^^ n/t Admiral Loinpresser Nov 2015 #151

Well said. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #153

He has no foreign policy experience. bravenak Nov 2015 #2

you're proving my point gobears10 Nov 2015 #3

He plans on using drones. What else will he decide to use? bravenak Nov 2015 #25

Common Sense bobbobbins01 Nov 2015 #119

It seems to me that Skidmore Nov 2015 #122

I welcome "no foreign policy experience" to killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #8

No. He plans on using drones. bravenak Nov 2015 #23

So are you being critical because he supports our President? nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #43

No. I just want us to all have the same facts. No halos. Just people with flaws,all of them and us. bravenak Nov 2015 #44

So, Hillary would use other peoples kids as Meat Shields in foreign wars NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #131

Bernie has not ruled out boots on the ground. Where did he say never? bravenak Nov 2015 #169

He didn't, but I think it's safe to say he would be far FAR more hesitant than Hillary. eom NorthCarolina Nov 2015 #194

Bernie has said he would not use war as a first resort, but only as the last. Telling the whole Cal33 Nov 2015 #211

Well, I am. I expect to be on the streets against some of his foreign policy initiatives eridani Nov 2015 #75

Yes he does. He voted against the Iraq War eridani Nov 2015 #10

My state IS that RED state. bravenak Nov 2015 #28

It's Clinton that has no coattails. Show me where the alienated 63% are organizing-- eridani Nov 2015 #68

Sanders has no support as far as coalitions. bravenak Nov 2015 #86

Nobody right now in my state is interested in self-organizing for Clinton eridani Nov 2015 #93

I go to school with 'the young ones' right now. bravenak Nov 2015 #100

You prefer Clinton on the War on Some Drugs? Jezus H Keerist on a raft! eridani Nov 2015 #114

You do realize that Sanders voted for mass incarceration a part of 'the war on drugs'. bravenak Nov 2015 #171

So, you think Hillary can get gun control passed? eridani Nov 2015 #208

Same shit different year pinebox Nov 2015 #14

So is Bernie. Did you see him at the debate? What WAS he TALKING about?!?! bravenak Nov 2015 #31

What was he talking about? Simple. pinebox Nov 2015 #144

I meant what was he talking about on Foreign policy. He answered questions not asked. bravenak Nov 2015 #170

Is this before ar after she was Secretary of State? Even in 2007-2008 Clinton was better than Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #34

Yet she voted for the Iraq War. More experienced? maybe (arguable). Poor Judgement? definitely n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #60

I was responding to post #14 Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #67

In 2007 she was weak on foreign policy because of a screwup on such a big vote. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #69

I was responding to post #14 was the information supplied in 2007-2008 before she became Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #72

I'm sorry, I don't follow at all, since the vote on Iraq had already occurred. But have a nice night JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #74

And he voted for the war in Afghanistan, ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #94

You're really equating Afghanistan and Iraq? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #104

It's a war, isn't it? ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #117

Oh the irony. A HC supporter complaining about Bernie's war votes! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #120

The poster made a valid point about Sanders voting for Afgan war and you digress. Rove would be riversedge Nov 2015 #134

No the poster broke my irony meter. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #136

Just more snark-nothing of substance. riversedge Nov 2015 #139

Just pointing out the absurdity. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #142

we saw. he died. she came. reddread Nov 2015 #159

I don't own ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #179

Do you understand why Bernie for Afghanistan? pinebox Nov 2015 #146

My candidate? I don't ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #177

truth hurts pinebox Nov 2015 #184

LOL ohheckyeah Nov 2015 #187

Because she's for endless war and he isn't eridani Nov 2015 #71

He said he would take military action and use drones, doesn't sound like Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #78

Starting more wars is something to expect from Clinton eridani Nov 2015 #82

Yes I see many post about Clinton starting wars and then I hear Sanders say he will, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #149

Meanwhile pinebox Nov 2015 #147

Better than killing people - 840high Nov 2015 #20

Like with the drones Bernie plans on continuing? bravenak Nov 2015 #21

His voting on the Brady Bill amd reluctance to move away fron the NRA and we have had more Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #37

"No foreign policy experience" is a lot better than being the ultimate hawk like Hillary jfern Nov 2015 #26

Great article. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #30

They both approve of drones, giving bombs to Netanyahu... bravenak Nov 2015 #32

You really don't see a difference? jfern Nov 2015 #33

I am pro palestinian. bravenak Nov 2015 #39

Well, yes almost every politician takes the side of Israel jfern Nov 2015 #47

I watched Bernie yell at a constituent over it. Samesies. bravenak Nov 2015 #48

No, it's not samsies jfern Nov 2015 #49

Barely. bravenak Nov 2015 #52

No, not at all barely. See this post and the corresponding OP jfern Nov 2015 #212

I think voting against the Iraw War Resolution is excellent foreign policy experience. How about .. Scuba Nov 2015 #132

Well he voted for war before. Nothing preventing him from it again. bravenak Nov 2015 #174

Sanders did not let that panic cloud his judgement. Qutzupalotl Nov 2015 #188

How so? He voted for Afganistan. Nobody can win that. Ask Russia. Not thinking clearly obviously.nt bravenak Nov 2015 #189

He saw through Rumsfeld's lies on Iraq and did his homework. Clinton didn't. Qutzupalotl Nov 2015 #193

Hillary's "foreign policy experience" is the biggest reason she lost my vote Martin Eden Nov 2015 #172

Ok. bravenak Nov 2015 #173

I'll take that as an agreement with my post ... Martin Eden Nov 2015 #175

She has that vote. He had his vote for mass incarceration. bravenak Nov 2015 #182

Specifically, which "mass incarceration" vote are you referring to? Martin Eden Nov 2015 #190

Omnibus crime bill. Look it up. Good and bad in it. A compromise. bravenak Nov 2015 #192

Omnibus Crime Bill does not remotely compare with the IWR vote. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #195

For black folks it DOES COMPARE. Millions of us in jail. For bullshit. It compares. bravenak Nov 2015 #196

Promoted by and signed into law by Bill Clinton Martin Eden Nov 2015 #199

Not voting for Bill. But I know Bernie would have signed it. He voted for it. bravenak Nov 2015 #200

"Bernie probably is better on it. But he is too depressing." Martin Eden Nov 2015 #201

He is pessimistic and yells too much. bravenak Nov 2015 #202

Seriously? Martin Eden Nov 2015 #203

I have done the IWR to death. bravenak Nov 2015 #204

In your opinion then, the invasion of Iraq was a wise move. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #205

It was a mistake. As was the invasion of Afganistan. One of which Bernie voted for. See? bravenak Nov 2015 #206

No comparison, as I previously explained in detail. Martin Eden Nov 2015 #207

He has no foreign policy experience. Same thing was said about Obama.. frylock Nov 2015 #180

No picture of police beating blacks for me today? That was so kind of you last time. bravenak Nov 2015 #181

I made my point. frylock Nov 2015 #185

There was no point. Only an attempt to assault a black woman with horrible images of HER HISTORY. bravenak Nov 2015 #186

He has been some 20+ years in both the House and the Senate. How can he help but know Cal33 Nov 2015 #210

While a certain poster may ask, "Why attack Sanders, Hillary is winning?" PatrickforO Nov 2015 #4

Sanders has voted more than once for military action and has stated recently Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #40

Hillary is for every war. jfern Nov 2015 #77

What an absurd argument. Marr Nov 2015 #137

another day, another alert MisterP Nov 2015 #5

"I am a Sanders supporter, really I am, but I hate his supporterstherefore I will vote for HRC." LOL rhett o rick Nov 2015 #11

Man, they really are alerting everything these days jfern Nov 2015 #27

Ain't that the truth. SoapBox Nov 2015 #38

More of the JOD approach to reality construction HereSince1628 Nov 2015 #127

3 hides in 3 days here. frylock Nov 2015 #183

Why would we? Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2015 #6

One of the new and interesting lines of attack is that Bernie is now a pure socialist Hydra Nov 2015 #9

He self-identifies as a Democratic Socialist. Look up what that means. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #112

Lol Hydra Nov 2015 #143

Well, America overwhelmingly rejects socialism. By vast numbers. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #162

America overwhelmingly rejects Clinton. "That's a fact." Dawgs Nov 2015 #167

Yeah, right. That's why Clinton crushes Sanders in Georgia - 73% to his 18% in the latest BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #168

I have plenty of issues with Bernie's policy... JaneyVee Nov 2015 #12

oh pinebox Nov 2015 #15

After she brought out voter suppression thrn he started talking aboit it. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #41

You may wish to re-think that pinebox Nov 2015 #141

I do not wish to rethink my statement. In this campaign, Clinton brought it up and then Sanders add Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #145

Sanders pinebox Nov 2015 #148

He must not have thought it was important until after Clinton presented it on Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #150

What? pinebox Nov 2015 #155

I did not post #141, it was after Clinton brougth this out in a speech then Sanders added it to his Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #156

Nobody is claiming he is pinebox Nov 2015 #157

Let me try this one more time, Clinton brought out voter suppression in a Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #160

No, and neither is Hillary Clinton JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #158

If you want to start running on every group, supporter, etc which may be connect to, have ever Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #161

Interesting JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #163

Do you care anything about policies a candidate may have on their agenda? Yes I answered the point, Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #164

I do care about policies JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #166

Results of Jury selection yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #55

Raiders might really be turning the corner, finally some wise picks the last few years and TheKentuckian Nov 2015 #110

true dat yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #111

They really need to start suspending people for making X number of failed alerts in Marr Nov 2015 #138

LOL pinebox Nov 2015 #140

I suppose to ask you if you're blind or something won't make any sense... MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #35

If you look at the greatest page, most of the Sanders posts start with Doctor_J Nov 2015 #13

Pointing out inconsistencies and obvious diluted/distorted propaganada postatomic Nov 2015 #16

Really? How about these attacks, recognize any of them? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #17

You are certainly persistent, I'll give you that postatomic Nov 2015 #22

"Just keep on doing what you're doing. We all love you for it." beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #29

No worries ........ you've got a lot more who admire you for your polly7 Nov 2015 #36

Thanks, polly! beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #46

Not from me postatomic Nov 2015 #61

I approve this message! bravenak Nov 2015 #42

Such depth. nt. polly7 Nov 2015 #54

Indeed. When presented with proof of bigoted posts they high five each other. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #56

Yeah .......... they're pretty transparent. polly7 Nov 2015 #57

The bigotry usually gets hidden here. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #62

I sure did. Also a LOT of other horrible, ugly things said which were quickly hidden ... polly7 Nov 2015 #64

We don't need separate websites to organize attacks on other DU members eridani Nov 2015 #73

Or use # fuckthebern in a sig line. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #76

You say this and then I read post #19 calling Clinton a shitty candidate. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #45

And that compares to what I posted how? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #50

You listed several names Sanders has been called and in post #19 Clinton was called a name. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #58

And? How does that negate the despicable things said about Bernie? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #66

The pedophile post you linked to is by pa28... luvspeas Nov 2015 #63

What are you talking about??? The author of the op is a Hillary supporter: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #65

You must not have seen posters profile rbrnmw Nov 2015 #80

Are you for real? The author was a Hillary supporter. Check their journal. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #81

OK nobody should post that video rbrnmw Nov 2015 #84

Yes he did, I'm from Vermont and I remember the Republican ads. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #90

Ok I apologize but I doubt that thing was even a democrat rbrnmw Nov 2015 #96

She could have been a troll from the cave. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #97

I know I was MIRT 2 terms rbrnmw Nov 2015 #99

No, Sonderwoman was not a Sanders supporter, it hated Sanders and his supporters Autumn Nov 2015 #85

I apologize I said it was inappropriate rbrnmw Nov 2015 #87

Just clearing up that that troll and it's socks were not Sanders supporters. Autumn Nov 2015 #88

I doubt it supports any democrat rbrnmw Nov 2015 #91

Yeah I'm sure it posts there, and is probably back here by now. Autumn Nov 2015 #92

They just start shit between the 2 camps rbrnmw Nov 2015 #95

It's a Hillary supporter in all its incarnations. senz Nov 2015 #101

Maybe but they don't speak for me rbrnmw Nov 2015 #102

troll? hillary supporter? sock? joke? make up your mind... luvspeas Nov 2015 #123

The people who posted those things are Hillary supporters. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #124

ok luvspeas Nov 2015 #129

I'm an atheist, I require evidence to believe. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #130

If by Hillary supporter you mean assholes that only want to destroy the democratic nominee... luvspeas Nov 2015 #133

So posting links to what others said about my candidate will doom us all next November? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #135

Exactly! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #18

Clinton is a shitty Democratic candidate - it's her ability to push past ethics and moral boundaries whereisjustice Nov 2015 #19

We lose - our grandchildren lose. America will lose. 840high Nov 2015 #24

Awesome post. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #59

Absolutely. Excellent post. senz Nov 2015 #103

Conservatives love Hillary? luvspeas Nov 2015 #128

This is getting positively ridiculous. bravenak Nov 2015 #191

Conservative mouth-breathers HATE Hillary. Their bosses, though, the ones George Carlin talks about Ron Green Nov 2015 #198

You can't attack Bernie on substance. He hasn't offered any specifics. Kang Colby Nov 2015 #51

Ding Ding Ding!!! bravenak Nov 2015 #53

How do you get more specific than scrap the cap and $15/hr? n/t eridani Nov 2015 #79

All he does is talk specifics. senz Nov 2015 #107

If Sanders supporters ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #70

Most posts about Sanders are about his policies. eridani Nov 2015 #83

I beg to differ. NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #89

Because war, banksters, and politics as usual are so inspiring. eridani Nov 2015 #98

You have your opinion of HRC ... NanceGreggs Nov 2015 #106

Why do people persist in confusing attacking individuals with attacking policy? eridani Nov 2015 #115

Precisely. senz Nov 2015 #108

Well said! eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #113

Oh, come on! Maedhros Nov 2015 #116

The extreme majority of Clinton supporters are NOT attacking Bernie. If anything it is the opposite. RBInMaine Nov 2015 #118

Here are two threads with hundreds of responses on health care policy and not a single-- eridani Nov 2015 #121

I have seen policy discussion on all sides. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #125

The Clinton camp injected the personal nastiness in to the dialog, and some of her supporters stillwaiting Nov 2015 #126

Sanders policies will prevent him from being nominated. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #152

If he's having such a difficult time now … NurseJackie Nov 2015 #154

The more Hillary adopts Bernie's policies the less they can attack him. See how that works? L0oniX Nov 2015 #165

I don't really dig his policies taught_me_patience Nov 2015 #176

Well, our supporters do it, too. HassleCat Nov 2015 #178

I don't think we want Vermont to set national gun laws BootinUp Nov 2015 #197

Well, people have tried to post articles to his policy positions BainsBane Nov 2015 #209