2016 Postmortem

Kentonio

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101. What the hell?

Fri Oct 30, 2015, 02:40 PM

Oct 2015

"But she'll use whatever advantage she has to wound her opponent, as well she should."

Since when should a Democrat use any tactic to 'wound' another nominee who may end up being the party nominee come the general? That's exactly the kind of thing they SHOULDN'T be doing for goodness sake!

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Thom Hartmann, Sanders should have kept her name out of his response. [View all] BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 OP

K & R Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #1

Thanks, Thiningabout. After reading so many posts on how Hillary Clinton is "taking his words out of BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #9

Hillary needs to make up her mind. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #66

Oh, believe me, Hillary Clinton's thicker than any other candidate's running. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #80

Did someone just suggest Hillary can't play hardball? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #87

Sadly, many times over in this thread. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #88

Sanders is right. JDPriestly Oct 2015 #89

Love Bernie, but he IS NOT right on this. lark Oct 2015 #104

Do you have a link to a statement by Bernie supporting the gun-show loophole? JDPriestly Oct 2015 #110

Yes, I heard that as well. lark Oct 2015 #112

What the hell? Kentonio Oct 2015 #101

She wasn't the only one shouting RobertEarl Oct 2015 #2

"Gun grabbers"? You ok? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #6

Gun grabber?? What a curious accusation there, RE. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #10

Did you just have a contest with yourself to see how many times.... Agschmid Oct 2015 #26

"What else do they have?" 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #36

Shouting about polls? Yes, they have that, too. RobertEarl Oct 2015 #45

You're right 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #59

That's all she has RobertEarl Oct 2015 #61

Oh, she has more than that, but that's pretty darn decent already. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #83

What the hell? lark Oct 2015 #105

This is crybaby level nonsense AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #3

Elections are popularity contests, first and foremost. You're a Sanders supporter so I understand BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #12

This whole 'issue' is no more than drama AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #16

Welcome to the world of American politics, AA. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #18

So you admit it's no more than drama AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #24

Nope. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #75

Or devastating to hers. dogman Oct 2015 #28

Or devastating to hers. But I wouldn't hold my breath. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #76

Did she shout? Sounded to me like she did tularetom Oct 2015 #30

Because they know this ginormous lead is smoke and mirrors.. frylock Oct 2015 #98

What does his campaign do instead that very night Hillary said that? boston bean Oct 2015 #4

I don't understand that, either. A simple apology, like the one in my OP, would have BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #15

"Bernie doesn't move" 72DejaVu Oct 2015 #37

He can if he chooses to. eom BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #85

Like .. "Hillary would make a great vice president". and "let them get over by a Cha Oct 2015 #95

I just find all of this posturing to be hypocritical. What I am used to enduring in political speech Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #5

Well, what is your fix for this. boston bean Oct 2015 #7

I'm quoting the OP. The Bible speaks negatively about homosexuality and about women speaking Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #20

what?? boston bean Oct 2015 #34

"unthinkable" Autumn Oct 2015 #8

I'm a longtime Hillary supporter, though currently undecided. cwydro Oct 2015 #11

I am, too, and I don't believe he meant it the way it came across. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #13

But why should he apologize for something he didn't do? cwydro Oct 2015 #14

Optics. Since he refuses to apologize, he's basically affirming Hillary's charge. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #17

I see your point. cwydro Oct 2015 #19

So he should apologize because Hillary made a false charge? Autumn Oct 2015 #23

I agree with this. cwydro Oct 2015 #31

Bernie defended her against the media and their email crap, in the same way, same tone he said Autumn Oct 2015 #39

Past actions show that she ISN'T better than this. frylock Oct 2015 #99

It wasn't her responsibility to comb through his previous statements Rose Siding Oct 2015 #38

No, she made a useful conclusion about his remark in the moment. n/t Autumn Oct 2015 #40

It wasn't in the moment. It was days later JimDandy Oct 2015 #93

No combing necessary. He said the same thing to O'Malley a couple minutes later. Jim Lane Oct 2015 #97

Nevermind that the "moment" was several days after the debate.. frylock Oct 2015 #100

He bumbled. He misspoke. He made a politically BAD mistake. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #77

No he did not. He clearly was speaking about the shouting between the GC factions. Autumn Oct 2015 #84

Optics are very important in campaigns-so very very important. riversedge Oct 2015 #54

You bet, riversedge. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #82

Yeah I watched the debate and I didn't take it that way at all.. Volaris Oct 2015 #25

I agree. bravenak Oct 2015 #21

Watch jkbRN Oct 2015 #22

When/where did Hartmann say this? TheProgressive Oct 2015 #27

He didn't. My OP was addressed to him since he admitted in his video that he visits DU BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #32

Mr. Hartmann willvotesdem Oct 2015 #29

Hillary would still claim she's the victim Politicalboi Oct 2015 #33

No. She wouldn't. BlueCaliDem Oct 2015 #86

Everyone has been shouting about guns. How was this interpreted as just Hillary anyway? Vinca Oct 2015 #35

Calling out sexism is just the opposite of playing the victim. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #43

Oh, baloney. It wasn't sexism. Vinca Oct 2015 #47

Calling out sexist language is not a sign you are a "weakling." SunSeeker Oct 2015 #49

I'd better not continue this conversation. Vinca Oct 2015 #67

Also, not everyone has been "shouting" about guns. The bullies are on the NRA side. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #44

To be clear RobertEarl Oct 2015 #46

The gun control proponents have not been "shouting." That is an unfair put down. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #48

They initially bundled UBCs with an AWB and registration hack89 Oct 2015 #50

The right wing and NRA showed ridiculous outrage over a reasonable package of regulations. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #52

Gun bans and registration are not "reasonable" to a majority of Americans. hack89 Oct 2015 #53

What "gun ban" are you talking about? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #56

What do you think the "B" in AWB stands for? hack89 Oct 2015 #58

Those are not "guns," assault weapons are military equipment. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #60

They are semiautomatic centerfire rifles - the most popular rifles in America for 25 years. hack89 Oct 2015 #63

Yes, assault rifles are the dream weapon for today's wannabe mass killer. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #69

No - handguns are. Have you forgotten Va Tech? hack89 Oct 2015 #71

No, did you forget Aurora, Sandy Hook, the McDonald's massacre... SunSeeker Oct 2015 #72

CT had registration and an AWB. hack89 Oct 2015 #73

It isn't a put down RobertEarl Oct 2015 #51

"Gun grabbing stance"? She is not talking about confiscating guns. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #55

See my OP in gdp RobertEarl Oct 2015 #57

It's called courage and leadership. SunSeeker Oct 2015 #62

Wait just a second RobertEarl Oct 2015 #64

Sanders supports an assault weapons ban. Do you think that makes him a "gun grabber"? nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #65

No. Do you? RobertEarl Oct 2015 #68

No. Yet you call Hillary a gun grabber for supporting an assault weapons ban. Why? SunSeeker Oct 2015 #70

Why is this so hard to understand? mcar Oct 2015 #41

K & R SunSeeker Oct 2015 #42

You should really change the subject line Flying Squirrel Oct 2015 #74

You should edit for clarity portlander23 Oct 2015 #78

HRC DOES shout a lot and its very unnerving and doesn't serve her well. Peregrine Took Oct 2015 #79

OK, so seriously portlander23 Oct 2015 #81

"strident" and "crabby"... nice Bucky Oct 2015 #92

I don't think Bernie is sexist rbrnmw Oct 2015 #90

I find your statement offensive to me as a man JonLeibowitz Oct 2015 #91

"As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the Cha Oct 2015 #94

Oh, please this is beyond trumped up ridiculous. merrily Oct 2015 #96

And this is no reason to support Hillary instead of Bernie. At all. n/t djean111 Oct 2015 #102

More like the opposite. merrily Oct 2015 #106

Yup. A person that thin-skinned, as the president? That is frightening, actually. djean111 Oct 2015 #108

She doesn't really need excuses to start wars, anyway, at least, not in the Middle East. merrily Oct 2015 #109

Really? In a debate he is not supposed to name the person he's addressing? Cleita Oct 2015 #103

She needs to develop a thicker skin AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #107

Sanders blew it and didn't apologize. anyone who saw Benghazi knows she has a thick skin. Cha Oct 2015 #111