"As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the (Reply #94)

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94. "As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the

world is not going to do, what I would hope, all of us want. And that is keep guns out of the hands of people who should not have those guns and end the violence we are seeing."

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That said, he should've simply apologized when this problem arose, and he would've nipped it in the bud. Instead, he doubled down. Second big mistake. Until he does, no amount of explaining by his supporters will turn this around.

Thank you Thom Hartmann..

Mahalo BlueCali!

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112 replies	Author	Time	Post
Thom Hartmann, Sanders should have kept her name out of his response. [View all]	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	OP
K & R	Thinkingabout	Oct 2015	#1
Thanks, Thiningabout. After reading so many posts on how Hillary Clinton is "taking his words out of	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#9
Hillary needs to make up her mind.	JDPriestly	Oct 2015	#66
Oh, believe me, Hillary Clinton's thicker than any other candidate's running.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#80
Did someone just suggest Hillary can't play hardball?	DemocratSinceBirth	Oct 2015	#87
Sadly, many times over in this thread.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#88
Sanders is right.	JDPriestly	Oct 2015	#89
Love Bernie, but he IS NOT right on this.	lark	Oct 2015	#104
Do you have a link to a statement by Bernie supporting the gun-show loophole?	JDPriestly	Oct 2015	#110
Yes, I heard that as well.	lark	Oct 2015	#112
What the hell?	Kentonio	Oct 2015	#101
She wasn't the only one shouting	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#2
"Gun grabbers"? You ok?	JaneyVee	Oct 2015	#6
Gun grabber?? What a curious accusation there, RE. eom	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#10
Did you just have a contest with yourself to see how many times....	Agschmid	Oct 2015	#26
"What else do they have?"	72DejaVu	Oct 2015	#36
Shouting about polls? Yes, they have that, too.	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#45
You're right	72DejaVu	Oct 2015	#59
That's all she has	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#61
Oh, she has more than that, but that's pretty darn decent already.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#83
What the hell?	lark	Oct 2015	#105
This is crybaby level nonsense	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#3
Elections are popularity contests, first and foremost. You're a Sanders supporter so I understand	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#12
This whole 'issue' is no more than drama	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#16
Welcome to the world of American politics, AA. eom	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#18
So you admit it's no more than drama	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#24
Nope. eom	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#75
Or devastating to hers.	dogman	Oct 2015	#28
Or devastating to hers. But I wouldn't hold my breath. eom	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#76
Did she shout? Sounded to me like she did	tularetom	Oct 2015	#30
Because they know this ginormous lead is smoke and mirrors..	frylock	Oct 2015	#98
What does his campaign do instead that very night Hillary said that?	boston bean	Oct 2015	#4
I don't understand that, either. A simple apology, like the one in my OP, would have	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#15
"Bernie doesn't move"	72DejaVu	Oct 2015	#37
He can if he chooses to. eom	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#85
Like .. "Hillary would make a great vice president". and "let them get over by a	Cha	Oct 2015	#95
I just find all of this posturing to be hypocritical. What I am used to enduring in political speech	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2015	#5
Well, what is your fix for this.	boston bean	Oct 2015	#7
I'm quoting the OP. The Bible speaks negatively about homosexuality and about women speaking	Bluenorthwest	Oct 2015	#20
what??	boston bean	Oct 2015	#34
"unthinkable"	Autumn	Oct 2015	#8
I'm a longtime Hillary supporter, though currently undecided.	cwydro	Oct 2015	#11
I am, too, and I don't believe he meant it the way it came across.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#13
But why should he apologize for something he didn't do?	cwydro	Oct 2015	#14
Optics. Since he refuses to apologize, he's basically affirming Hillary's charge.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#17
I see your point.	cwydro	Oct 2015	#19
So he should apologize because Hillary made a false charge?	Autumn	Oct 2015	#23
I agree with this.	cwydro	Oct 2015	#31
Bernie defended her against the media and their email crap, in the same way, same tone he said	Autumn	Oct 2015	#39
Past actions show that she ISN'T better than this.	frylock	Oct 2015	#99
It wasn't her responsibility to comb through his previous statements	Rose Siding	Oct 2015	#38
No, she made a useful conclusion about his remark in the moment. n/t	Autumn	Oct 2015	#40
It wasn't in the moment. It was days later	JimDandy	Oct 2015	#93
No combing necessary. He said the same thing to O'Malley a couple minutes later.	Jim Lane	Oct 2015	#97
Nevermind that the "moment" was several days after the debate..	frylock	Oct 2015	#100
He bumbled. He misspoke. He made a politically BAD mistake.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#77
No he did not. He clearly was speaking about the shouting between the GC factions.	Autumn	Oct 2015	#84
Optics are very important in campaigns-so very very important.	riversedge	Oct 2015	#54
You bet, riversedge.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#82
Yeah I watched the debate and I didn't take it that way at all..	Volaris	Oct 2015	#25
I agree.	bravenak	Oct 2015	#21
Watch	jkbRN	Oct 2015	#22
When/where did Hartmann say this?	TheProgressive	Oct 2015	#27
He didn't. My OP was addressed to him since he admitted in his video that he visits DU	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#32
Mr. Hartmann	willvotesdem	Oct 2015	#29
Hillary would still claim she's the victim	Politicalboi	Oct 2015	#33
No. She wouldn't.	BlueCaliDem	Oct 2015	#86
Everyone has been shouting about guns. How was this interpreted as just Hillary anyway?	Vinca	Oct 2015	#35
Calling out sexism is just the opposite of playing the victim.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#43
Oh, baloney. It wasn't sexism.	Vinca	Oct 2015	#47
Calling out sexist language is not a sign you are a "weakling."	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#49
I'd better not continue this conversation.	Vinca	Oct 2015	#67
Also, not everyone has been "shouting" about guns. The bullies are on the NRA side.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#44
To be clear	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#46
The gun control proponents have not been "shouting." That is an unfair put down.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#48
They initially bundled UBCs with an AWB and registration	hack89	Oct 2015	#50
The right wing and NRA showed ridiculous outrage over a reasonable package of regulations.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#52
Gun bans and registration are not "reasonable" to a majority of Americans.	hack89	Oct 2015	#53
What "gun ban" are you talking about?	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#56
What do you think the "B" in AWB stands for?	hack89	Oct 2015	#58
Those are not "guns," assault weapons are military equipment.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#60
They are semiautomatic centerfire rifles - the most popular rifles in America for 25 years.	hack89	Oct 2015	#63
Yes, assault rifles are the dream weapon for today's wannabe mass killer. nt	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#69
No - handguns are. Have you forgotten Va Tech?	hack89	Oct 2015	#71
No, did you forget Aurora, Sandy Hook, the McDonald's massacre...	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#72
CT had registration and an AWB.	hack89	Oct 2015	#73
It isn't a put down	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#51
"Gun grabbing stance"? She is not talking about confiscating guns.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#55
See my OP in gdp	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#57
It's called courage and leadership.	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#62
Wait just a second	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#64
Sanders supports an assault weapons ban. Do you think that makes him a "gun grabber"? nt	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#65
No. Do you?	RobertEarl	Oct 2015	#68
No. Yet you call Hillary a gun grabber for supporting an assault weapons ban. Why?	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#70
Why is this so hard to understand?	mcar	Oct 2015	#41
K & R	SunSeeker	Oct 2015	#42
You should really change the subject line	Flying Squirrel	Oct 2015	#74
You should edit for clarity	portlander23	Oct 2015	#78
HRC DOES shout a lot and its very unnerving and doesn't serve her well.	Peregrine Took	Oct 2015	#79
OK, so seriously	portlander23	Oct 2015	#81
"strident" and "crabby"... nice	Bucky	Oct 2015	#92
I don't think Bernie is sexist	rbrnmw	Oct 2015	#90
I find your statement offensive to me as a man	JonLeibowitz	Oct 2015	#91
"As Senator from a rural State, what I can tell Secretary Clinton, "that all the shouting in the	Cha	Oct 2015	#94
Oh, please this is beyond trumped up ridiculous.	merrily	Oct 2015	#96
And this is no reason to support Hillary instead of Bernie. At all. n/t	djean111	Oct 2015	#102
More like the opposite.	merrily	Oct 2015	#106
Yup. A person that thin-skinned, as the president? That is frightening, actually.	djean111	Oct 2015	#108
She doesn't really need excuses to start wars, anyway, at least, not in the Middle East.	merrily	Oct 2015	#109
Really? In a debate he is not supposed to name the person he's addressing?	Cleita	Oct 2015	#103
She needs to develop a thicker skin	AgingAmerican	Oct 2015	#107
Sanders blew it and didn't apologize. anyone who saw Benghazi knows she has a thick skin.	Cha	Oct 2015	#111

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