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Response to CheshireDog (Original post)

Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:37 AM

8. So by your definition voting for Clinton because she is a woman is a form of sexism

Not saying that's right or wrong. Just saying that is the case if we combine the specific enthusiasm we have for her being the first female President and your definition of sexism. She is being treated different because of her gender and according to you that is sexism.

But here is a real problem I have with your post which is that sexism means different things to different people and it is used so widely for so many different things that may or may not really be sexism that it itself then loses its value and real meaning or potency.

The other issue is that it is used as a political cudgel here on DU and elsewhere so that it creates an asymmetrical debate and thus shuts down true communication.

Additionally there are many times I read you can't make fun or make discourse over Clinton's hair, looks, mannerisms, and facial expressions because we don't treat male politicians this way. To this I say complete bollocks. To make fun of politicians looks and expressions is stock and trade of politics.

Reagan's senility and general sense of daftness
Gore's sighs and brown suits
Bush's chimp like countenance
McCain's lost granda bit at the debate
Clinton's bulbous nose and philandering
Countless political caricatures depicting politicians features in the worst light.

Those are just a few things I can think of off the top of my head.

The point I am trying to make is don't abuse words for one thing because then you ruin the power of those words. Second realize that getting made fun of in terms of looks and mannerisms is part of politics and has been for centuries. To act as if men are immune to childish aspersions is disingenuous.

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