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2016 Postmortem

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grahamhgreen

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Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:50 AM Oct 2015

TNBernie: Wow, I can't believe her... As a woman myself, [View all]

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"Wow, I can't believe her... As a woman myself, I always have to deal with people telling me that sexism is "bullshit" or just an excuse women use when they can't admit they're wrong, etc. So, I know where Hillary is coming from, and I always love it when powerful women call out sexist behaviors... but this is not what Hillary did. She did not call out sexist behavior, she took a real, sexist phenomenon and then dishonestly manufactured a situation to serve as an attack on her fellow candidates.

Seeing and hearing influential women like Hillary take a real sexist phenomenon and apply it to a situation where it doesn't belong is really upsetting, and is potentially very damaging to the progress women work so hard for. This will only give shitty people more ammo: "See, sexism isn't real! It's just something you liberal hippy women use when you want to win an argument!"

She is a powerful woman who is trying to champion gender equality; I know she has valuable insight into sexism and politics, and we should at least try to listen to her, even if we don't agree with her politically. But right now she's using her position of power dishonestly and is risking her and fellow women's credibility when it comes to calling out sexism. And that, to me, is the worst thing about this attack. I'm mad that she's lying about Bernie, but I'm way more upset that she's making women lose credibility and giving sexist shitheads more ammo against us..

Hillary, if you want to use your gender as a selling point for you campaign, have at it. I understand the appeal and actually don't see it as a "bad" point, just different from the rest of the candidates. But don't frame a problem as a sexist one if it isn't there. Don't throw progress under the bus in favor to bring down and attack candidates. The candidates aren't the only victims of these attacks. You're stunting progress and losing credibility that so many women (yourself included) have fought for."

- TNBernie

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Which attack are we talking about? I'm starting to lose track. -nt- 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #1
My money's on this one: dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #2
You are correct! grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #7
it is indeed getting hard to keep track Skittles Oct 2015 #4
exactly dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #3
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #5
Bernie really should stop telling women not to shout. leftofcool Oct 2015 #6
He didn't. grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #8
Bernie didn't tell her not to shout. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #9
Yeah, he wasn't telling women not to shout thesquanderer Oct 2015 #10
You agree that's not what he said, correct? grahamhgreen Oct 2015 #11
this victim and gender strategy is getting old quick restorefreedom Oct 2015 #12
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