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2016 Postmortem

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dreamnightwind

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52. Thanks for posting this link
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015

I had seen it before and lost track of it, and the linked study in the article is amazingly well written and researched. Should be required reading.

http://journals.cambridge.org/download.php?file=%2FPPS%2FPPS12_03%2FS1537592714001595a.pdf&code=e40d65fc61c134913e3ad43a422129d3

Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page

What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule — at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.
A Question for You All [View all] Rebkeh Oct 2015 OP
I ask you do you know the issued Hillary is running? Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #1
Politics-as-usual is past it's due date. As is "Not as Bad". K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #2
Yes, progress with Martin O'Malley: elleng Oct 2015 #3
He's my second choice, actually. Rebkeh Oct 2015 #14
He certainly HAS demonstrated that he's not a 'go along to get along' type. elleng Oct 2015 #18
Like I said, Rebkeh Oct 2015 #23
Thanks for this JustAnotherGen Oct 2015 #27
Same here. I like O'Malley. I just like Sanders more. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #51
If you believe that you don't have a choice, then you don't, you've given up your power. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #4
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #31
Anytime, Uncle Joe n/t Rebkeh Oct 2015 #32
K&R nt 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #5
"Do you believe it is possible to have the country we want? " NO! MohRokTah Oct 2015 #6
Unfortunately, we are no longer a democracy. azmom Oct 2015 #9
Baloney MohRokTah Oct 2015 #12
Voting has little to do with it. It's about power and control. azmom Oct 2015 #15
Voting has EVERYTHING To do with it. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #16
You have little influence. The system is corrupt. azmom Oct 2015 #17
Thanks for posting this link dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #52
Game is rigged - TBF Oct 2015 #21
Diebold comes to mind, election flipping a la oligarchy. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #25
That is actually a great point... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #13
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #29
. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #36
We have a country the Repubicans want, with a few exceptions Armstead Oct 2015 #40
That's pretty phoney baloney. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #42
With some exceptions. But.... Armstead Oct 2015 #44
Doctors aren't being executed for abortions. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #45
K&R azmom Oct 2015 #7
I believe you can ask 100 different people and get a 100 different answers to: JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8
I think we can all agree we want a representative azmom Oct 2015 #10
Exactly Rebkeh Oct 2015 #20
The government no longer responds azmom Oct 2015 #24
Agreed n/t Rebkeh Oct 2015 #50
That wasn't my question though Rebkeh Oct 2015 #19
Yes, for me the choice has been clear for quite some time. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #11
I'm pretty sure it's rigged with the exception TBF Oct 2015 #22
You are presuming to know what "we" want and OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #26
No veil and no campaign Rebkeh Oct 2015 #34
I think you are being quite harsh whathehell Oct 2015 #35
Sorry. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive. OldHippieChick Oct 2015 #46
This OP really captures something true left lowrider Oct 2015 #28
Thank you, Rebkeh Oct 2015 #48
Good luck to you youngins. GeorgeGist Oct 2015 #30
I feel we have some power in making it more like how we want it. lovemydog Oct 2015 #33
Amen -- Great OP Armstead Oct 2015 #37
Achieving the dream Thespian2 Oct 2015 #38
i don't think it will happen in my lifetime. barbtries Oct 2015 #39
Bernie is appealing to the Puritopians wyldwolf Oct 2015 #41
I'm sure he is Rebkeh Oct 2015 #49
4-8 months????? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #43
4-8 months Rebkeh Oct 2015 #47
The choice is very clear! And more and more people are making that choice!! sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #53
No. How long have you lived here? Recursion Oct 2015 #54
We need paper ballots and a sustained political revolution. Then, yes. nt stillwaiting Oct 2015 #55
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