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Rilgin

(787 posts)
114. You are right.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 11:39 PM
Oct 2015

She is not any woman. Noway. She is a woman who has had a number of wrong votes in her career that should have ended her forward motion in politics. It is mindblowing that the Democratic Party keeps nominating politicians who voted for the Iraq War. '

They are not criminals like some of the Republicans who sold us the war. However, this was the most momentous vote in the last 20 years. In many ways it has shaped our world. Hillary and the other democrats like her, held their finger in the wind, and made a political judgement about the political consequences of voting for that war. I am sure they did not believe it would end up the disaster for the middle east that it did but their vote was a political calculation. Since it ended up on the wrong side of history, the consequence for this should be that the politicians who voted wrong should bite the bullet and not be rewarded by becoming president. The cost for such bad votes really should be their ambitions.

However, instead of looking her decisions squarely in the eye and just becoming a statewoman, she has used power politics and money to continue her ambition.

What makes it worse, is she threatens the democratic party by not recognizing that her past votes divide the democratic party and her past lies, reinventions, and history engage the republican mind.

she used it as an excuse to play the gender card (again). nt antigop Oct 2015 #1
What else is new?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #8
Its the Clinton way... Segami Oct 2015 #34
Thanks Segami. truedelphi Oct 2015 #53
I am progessive and I am supporting Hillary: Most American's are with Hillary lewebley3 Oct 2015 #90
Then explain these two pieces of Phenomena: truedelphi Oct 2015 #103
Not true! houston_radical Oct 2015 #143
With Biden out Hillary is in 60% in polls: over 85 favorable with Dem's lewebley3 Oct 2015 #144
People didn't "reject" her back in 2008, there was just a seemingly better qualified... George II Oct 2015 #131
Maureen Dowd is a mean woman:She can't stand Hillary sucess: Dowd is Bitter! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #89
bitter DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #126
If she isn't bitter or green:why is Dowd dedicated to attacking Hillary: There is the GOP! lewebley3 Oct 2015 #145
ok for Sanders to shout but not Hillary? wow kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #107
From AlbertCat.. Segami Oct 2015 #108
Maureen Dowd is someone we should listen to? lark Oct 2015 #142
Glad you all like my post from Somervell County Salon scsalon Oct 2015 #86
Thank you and welcome to DU! Segami Oct 2015 #88
Wecome to DU! juajen Oct 2015 #119
I agree! Stevepol Oct 2015 #105
Because she sat down with her "peeps" and watched the replay over a couple of times and YOHABLO Oct 2015 #111
She Disgusts Me More Every Day billhicks76 Oct 2015 #122
She's the anti-feminist Lorien Oct 2015 #124
Kinda ironic caps lock in your every OP and shouting GusBob Oct 2015 #2
Grow up. Segami Oct 2015 #4
. haikugal Oct 2015 #29
+1 L0oniX Oct 2015 #66
No need to be rude! juajen Oct 2015 #118
Agree with the OP. HerbChestnut Oct 2015 #3
Flashback to 2008 primary campaign. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #11
The question is: why do it? Does she not see how bad an idea it is, winter is coming Oct 2015 #19
Cut it out! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #102
Fable: scorpion talks frog into giving him a ride. RIP, frog. Divernan Oct 2015 #140
LOL, I nearly referenced that, myself. n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #141
That is what she does MissDeeds Oct 2015 #38
+1 TheFarseer Oct 2015 #80
Agreed MissDeeds Oct 2015 #82
+1 for Go Royals! TheFarseer Oct 2015 #85
She really reached out there on that one. azmom Oct 2015 #5
They torn a page Segami Oct 2015 #12
It's hard to believe they are spending azmom Oct 2015 #13
Can you say that without shouting? nt Skidmore Oct 2015 #6
That was my first thought as well. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #135
The worst part of it is that she knows what's she's doing. Totally cynical politics. reformist2 Oct 2015 #7
It's dishonest and manipulative. azmom Oct 2015 #14
You don't know what is in Hillary's head: and you are a contstant basher lewebley3 Oct 2015 #91
There are several Clinton supporters here who have said they are voting for her because she in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #9
You sound like the GOP: they have a black man ready to become Pesident lewebley3 Oct 2015 #92
You are right. Rilgin Oct 2015 #114
The gender card should be played, juajen Oct 2015 #120
I love that this smart candidate is a woman, juajen Oct 2015 #121
I promised not to, voice coach . orpupilofnature57 Oct 2015 #10
Do we really need multiple threads on this?? Persondem Oct 2015 #15
Ask the GOP how well that's worked. AlbertCat Oct 2015 #30
Yeah, to the perfect candidate at the perfect time. Persondem Oct 2015 #39
If Hillary couldn't play the victim she would have become irrelevant years ago. A Simple Game Oct 2015 #42
We are just trying to match all the h multiple threads on the same subject artislife Oct 2015 #64
Seriously, playing the 'I am picked on for being a woman card' no matter how innocuous the Live and Learn Oct 2015 #16
Counting down to Maech 2, 2016 RandySF Oct 2015 #17
And it'll end up being O'Malley standing triumphant atop the scorched wreckage Scootaloo Oct 2015 #18
Yup. EEO Oct 2015 #24
Great post. I was trying to write something similar in another thread and saw this. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #20
Voting for someone because of gender is the same as voting against someone because of gender. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #21
Those who practice this double-standard Segami Oct 2015 #22
You would think that would be self evident but it's not. nm rhett o rick Oct 2015 #49
This is why she can't win the general election. EEO Oct 2015 #23
+1000 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #40
well, at least the Republican congressional committees asjr Oct 2015 #84
There's a stupid focus that's evident even here on DU Plucketeer Oct 2015 #25
Hillary never shouted once during the debate, unlike Bernie. Get real. pnwmom Oct 2015 #26
Hillary never shouted once during the debate, AlbertCat Oct 2015 #32
What, can you read his mind? He said she had been shouting -- while he was the only one doing that. pnwmom Oct 2015 #58
What, can you read his mind? AlbertCat Oct 2015 #60
No. He didn't say SHE was shouting. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #71
I did see clips of her in stump speeches recently where she was shouting. Chemisse Oct 2015 #97
Clinton "pandering" to women? Like the way they said she "pimped" Chelsea? McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #27
Yes. Language MATTERS. SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #112
instead of talking about the ISSUE of gun control, make it a whiny "Oh, He's Complaining about ME AlbertCat Oct 2015 #28
that is the pattern ^^^^ left lowrider Oct 2015 #75
Hope you don't think I'm sexist SCantiGOP Oct 2015 #31
I'm unclear why Clinton went in this direction..... blackspade Oct 2015 #33
because catering to anger and fear retrowire Oct 2015 #45
Except he's not "pretty weak" on this issue. cui bono Oct 2015 #63
Not my point. blackspade Oct 2015 #115
She got nowhere with the "arm waving" meme so nt LiberalElite Oct 2015 #35
It sounded like something Sarah Palin would have said passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #36
Why can't Hillary stay Classy and Logical? Herman4747 Oct 2015 #37
A dumb comment - accusing women of voting for Hillary just because she is a woman. I am sorry seaglass Oct 2015 #41
st st st strawmannnn retrowire Oct 2015 #44
You read it. n/t seaglass Oct 2015 #48
i did. retrowire Oct 2015 #57
Perhaps your reading was too shallow. n/t seaglass Oct 2015 #59
you're right retrowire Oct 2015 #93
to me it boiled mercuryblues Oct 2015 #100
Don't forget... Maineman Oct 2015 #74
When she talks about how she went to the banksters and told them to "cut it out" should rhett o rick Oct 2015 #106
No one said that Clinton and Fiorina are the same. That's a strawman argument. The point is simple. rhett o rick Oct 2015 #104
If you are saying don't vote solely based on gender I would agree with you. The strawman is that seaglass Oct 2015 #109
K and R retrowire Oct 2015 #43
This female agrees - TBF Oct 2015 #46
Thank you for that info about Bernie and the Equal Rights Amendment. Maineman Oct 2015 #76
November Delta Golf dogjawinc Oct 2015 #47
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #50
Sanders didn't "say" anything at the CNN debates! Walk away Oct 2015 #51
oh GMTA grasswire Oct 2015 #52
Never underestimate how stupid the elite think we are. zeemike Oct 2015 #54
I think all of this misses Bernie's point dreamnightwind Oct 2015 #55
Hillary just wanted to USE being a WOMAN again and PLAY THE VICTIM. It was nothing to do what sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #61
It's so hard to be rich. Everyone is always trying to hurt them. They have no real friends. L0oniX Oct 2015 #69
hmm... kjones Oct 2015 #56
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Hillary: she is as fragil as a piece of fine china artislife Oct 2015 #62
Definitely do NOT want this woman to be POTUS. cui bono Oct 2015 #65
Remember when she cried in the 2008 campaign? Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #67
How can we forget -the RW keeps bringing up that incident. riversedge Oct 2015 #94
Its a Vaudeville Act.... Segami Oct 2015 #96
It's an odd comment by Hillary. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #68
well said nt grasswire Oct 2015 #95
It really is time we had a female leader. Utopian Leftist Oct 2015 #70
K&R and I'm female. CharlotteVale Oct 2015 #72
I worry about single issue voters basing it on gender or equivalent rationalization. Maineman Oct 2015 #73
She really stretched to reach the gender card on that one. How desperate. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #77
She won NH in 2008 Geronimoe Oct 2015 #78
Trying to control the meaning of words, so as to control the discussion Babel_17 Oct 2015 #79
This is right there with Obama's Politicalboi Oct 2015 #81
K & R!!! Thespian2 Oct 2015 #83
I think a lot of female professionals understand what Hillary is saying. yardwork Oct 2015 #87
No one is arguing with the truth of the statement only the implication that Sen Sanders reflected rhett o rick Oct 2015 #98
+1000 Segami Oct 2015 #101
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #134
The way a candidate runs their campaign is a measure of their character. That's just a fact. Enthusiast Oct 2015 #99
Plating the gender card is off-putting. thereismore Oct 2015 #110
As a woman I agree with you. zentrum Oct 2015 #113
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Oct 2015 #116
I do not have a problem with her speaking at all. juajen Oct 2015 #117
I really, really dislike this meme by Clinton Bernblu Oct 2015 #123
I like her as a person. I just disagree with too many of her policies n/t eridani Oct 2015 #125
Yes x 1000. She seems perfectly charming in a social context, but closeupready Oct 2015 #139
I'm not voting for Hillary because she's a woman. I'm voting for her because she is Laser102 Oct 2015 #127
"The primary victims of war are the people, men AND women, who FOUGHT in the wars." Shankapotomus Oct 2015 #128
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Do you suppose this post is most like doing the work of Bush, or Trump? Darb Oct 2015 #129
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Well done. DrBulldog Oct 2015 #130
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Yep. It underscored my conviction that it's Bernie or Bust for me. closeupready Oct 2015 #138
Pure Class, that Hillary...pure class... Indepatriot Oct 2015 #146
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