2016 Postmortem

sulphurdunn

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56. She didn't get it in '08

Sat Oct 10, 2015, 03:05 PM

Oct 2015

because the big money in the party decided Obama could win. They threw her the Secretary of State bone and told her to wait until '16.

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Clinton down 10 points in one week [View all] left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 OP

Reuters online poll is held in low regard by Nate Silver Sliceo Oct 2015 #1

This was same as a phone poll. n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #2

No it wasn't Godhumor Oct 2015 #4

Yes it was. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #5

Because that is what the "poll" is Godhumor Oct 2015 #6

Again, where do you get that it is an online poll? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #8

Here wyldwolf Oct 2015 #9

There's an enormous difference between using online surveys and it being an 'online poll'. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #10

Have fun with it. Mitt Romney and his supporters did. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #11

What does that non-sequitur have to do with anything? n/t ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #12

Because Romney's crew believed these... intersectionality Oct 2015 #15

You're suggesting that Reuter's numbers are incorrect? ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #18

Give it up. Godhumor is right. It is an online poll. No phones at all Sliceo Oct 2015 #59

No, he's not correct, and neither are you. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #62

That's the same thing I said Sliceo Oct 2015 #76

I'm just fine, and that not 'the same thing I said'. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #78

You wrote "This was a phone poll" oberliner Oct 2015 #81

No, it exposes a brain cramp. ColesCountyDem Oct 2015 #84

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #91

Thank you for the information. I thought this was wrong to begin with. Laser102 Oct 2015 #19

Same Nate Silver who predicted Scott Walker would get GOP nom? HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #14

When did he predict that? Sliceo Oct 2015 #77

This is a lie oberliner Oct 2015 #82

Is that the same Nate Silver Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #21

Nope. That was someone on his staff. Adrahil Oct 2015 #26

Just like it was someone on Hillary's staff who ordered the backup server to overwrite data leveymg Oct 2015 #29

What? Adrahil Oct 2015 #49

Movement in a deep downward shift for Clinton, and a one hell of a jump for Bernie. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #60

We shall see. It could happen. But I doubt it. Adrahil Oct 2015 #66

You'd be amazed... Time_Lord Oct 2015 #67

His rise is not out of line with previous "insurgent" candidates. Adrahil Oct 2015 #74

Some of this Sander support is starting to look like FUD and acting like it too uponit7771 Oct 2015 #75

"Sanders has plateaued" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #42

Well, that's what the data shows.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #48

This is also a lie oberliner Oct 2015 #83

This was a phone poll. And if they contacted people who do not use landlines sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #43

To be fair, she'd just seen a small bump moving her up against challengers. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #3

Online poll? JaneyVee Oct 2015 #7

Apparently a "survey" with a "credibility interval" of + or - 4.5....not even an on-line poll! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #13

I know nothing about Bayesian statistics magical thyme Oct 2015 #23

Possibly she did go down.... Adrahil Oct 2015 #27

Just last week all the rage was a "survey" claiming Sanders leads in all 50 states! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #33

Explain the science behind polls re Primary Candidates that include people who are not running? sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #44

How can I put this more succinctly and clearly? Let me borrow a phrase, modified: Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #46

How can I put this succintly? I do not like h or her supporters. artislife Oct 2015 #50

Even so, the low 40's is where many of the polls have found her support to be HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #16

But their headline is written for its sensationalism - "Clinton down 10 points"!! HORROR! George II Oct 2015 #31

Polls, or no polls SmittynMo Oct 2015 #17

Her supporters can spin this any way they want Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #20

So, is she toast? Helen Borg Oct 2015 #22

Not yet. Le Taz Hot Oct 2015 #25

Clinton Machine is on its very last legs.. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #61

Better headline: "Polls Swing 5 Points in Either Direction on a Regular Basis" DLnyc Oct 2015 #24

Another better headline: "Wild Swings in Clinton Popularity Are Within 9% 'Credibility Interval'*" Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #30

Even if Sanders sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #28

Congrats...first out of the gate with the "it is all fixed" refrain! And it is only October! Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #32

I honestly didn't expect that until late night Super Tuesday wyldwolf Oct 2015 #34

Of course you wouldn't. sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #36

your reply is completely irrelevant to the conversation. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #37

The conspiracy cards have not yet been played, but they have been shuffled and are on the table. Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #39

I referenced the 1944 Democratic Convention sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #40

So? wyldwolf Oct 2015 #45

P-l-e-a-s-e sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #57

If you have an issue with how and why Truman replaced Wallace.. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #58

I do, sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #63

You act as though Wallace had some kind of right to be FDR's veep wyldwolf Oct 2015 #70

You know what projection is? sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #72

something that in no way applies here wyldwolf Oct 2015 #73

Wallace won the first ballot sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #79

And eventually lost, as he did in the general of '48. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #85

What do you have against Henry Wallace? sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #87

other than the historical revisionism the left have created around him, nothing. wyldwolf Oct 2015 #88

Please don't put your words sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #35

If this is true, why didn't she get the nomination in '08? lunamagica Oct 2015 #47

She didn't get it in '08 sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #56

So, are you saying that Hillary legitimately won the nomination and it was taken from her? lunamagica Oct 2015 #65

What I'm saying is there is no 'rightful' nominee, sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #68

Please feel free to explain how this would happen? mythology Oct 2015 #86

You can do all sorts of things: sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #89

stay the course, Hillary FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #38

Full-speed ahead, Hillary, damn the torpedoes and the icebergs, and the rock jetty to starboard. leveymg Oct 2015 #51

Those poor passengers FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #53

Don't worry, the First Class pool has a lifeguard. We know our priorities on this cruise line. leveymg Oct 2015 #55

Touché! nt FlatBaroque Oct 2015 #69

The poll shows a promising trend: Democrats are waking up senz Oct 2015 #41

It's not clear which Hillary is polled. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #52

"It's not clear which Hillary was polled" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #54

LOL. There have been more Hillarys than there are hifiguy Oct 2015 #71

Online poll, click bait screaming headline workinclasszero Oct 2015 #64

That poll is suspect.. it jumps around erratically. DCBob Oct 2015 #80

"click bait screaming headline" left-of-center2012 Oct 2015 #90