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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Uh oh, the Pollster.com trendline has finally caught up with reality [View all]Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)35. So you support the Rovian candidate, eh? The liar? I quote you below (emphasis mine)
Hillary Clinton's Released White House Records show she Lied about Opposing NAFTA
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080320_hillary_clinton_s_re.htm
In fact, the documents released today show a meeting that Hillary chaired at the White House on November 10, 1993 where she promoted the passage of NAFTA to 120 people. Reports are coming out in every news agency pointing out the contradictions between her stated positions since announcing her bid for the Presidency and everything before that.
One of the things you would expect of someone who really has good experience and judgment is that they can articulate a basic set of principles and positions on issues that they can run on and defend and that stay relatively static. I'm not saying you have to stick to them in the face of overwhelming evidence that one of your positions has been proven to be wrong, like George W. Bush does, even someone who has good experience and judgment occasionally changes their mind. That is not what we have with Hillary. Hillary gives a different opinion on the same subjects every couple of weeks depending on her audience and what she thinks it will net her. As evidence of this is now coming out and is going to be presented to the American people in the starkest terms, how can one be expected to trust her to do anything that she says she is going to do? How can one really know what she believes or intends to do about anything? The only things Hillary's experience seems to be good for is perfecting how to talk out of both sides of her mouth, engaging in the politics of personal destruction and other aspects of her ruthless pursuit of power that remind one of what a Karl Rove might do. That kind of person ought not to be the Democratic nominee.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_steven_l_080320_hillary_clinton_s_re.htm
In fact, the documents released today show a meeting that Hillary chaired at the White House on November 10, 1993 where she promoted the passage of NAFTA to 120 people. Reports are coming out in every news agency pointing out the contradictions between her stated positions since announcing her bid for the Presidency and everything before that.
One of the things you would expect of someone who really has good experience and judgment is that they can articulate a basic set of principles and positions on issues that they can run on and defend and that stay relatively static. I'm not saying you have to stick to them in the face of overwhelming evidence that one of your positions has been proven to be wrong, like George W. Bush does, even someone who has good experience and judgment occasionally changes their mind. That is not what we have with Hillary. Hillary gives a different opinion on the same subjects every couple of weeks depending on her audience and what she thinks it will net her. As evidence of this is now coming out and is going to be presented to the American people in the starkest terms, how can one be expected to trust her to do anything that she says she is going to do? How can one really know what she believes or intends to do about anything? The only things Hillary's experience seems to be good for is perfecting how to talk out of both sides of her mouth, engaging in the politics of personal destruction and other aspects of her ruthless pursuit of power that remind one of what a Karl Rove might do. That kind of person ought not to be the Democratic nominee.
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Uh oh, the Pollster.com trendline has finally caught up with reality [View all]
Godhumor
Oct 2015
OP
Yes, we will find out. We have someone who has had several dozen national debates
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#14
It's not passion. Its arrogance and impatience and he is known to have that personality. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#17
The people rarely see it. We saw a little of it with his interaction with BLM. nt
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#19
People usually don't react well when others interrupt them and yell in their face...
ram2008
Oct 2015
#20
You're supposed to react well if you expect to be at the national level. It's not about you.
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#21
Nice try at changing the subject. His personality will become clear during the six debates.
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#25
Yes, of course! Because no one has ever mentioned the idea of being Presidential before for
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#33
So you support the Rovian candidate, eh? The liar? I quote you below (emphasis mine)
Luminous Animal
Oct 2015
#35
We now have a lot more to go on regarding Hillary, don't we? We have six years of SecState
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#38
LOL, if you are going to throw that kind of drama, give me time to pull out my violin.
stevenleser
Oct 2015
#40
So, what changed your mind about Hillary? Bernie as we now, and the public is finding out daily,
sabrina 1
Oct 2015
#58
What Bernie does not have time for a flip-flopping bullshit artist of a hack that calls himself..
Time_Lord
Oct 2015
#59
Not likely since the more face time she gives the public, the less they like her.
closeupready
Oct 2015
#11
and then you can drink the lovely, lovely salt tears of the Sanders supporters!
ish of the hammer
Oct 2015
#15
An overlooked tidbit - 20% of voters made up their minds since Jan, and Hillary got ZERO of them.
reformist2
Oct 2015
#5