2016 Postmortem

Sherman A1

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54. I have been saying this all along

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 04:08 AM

Aug 2012

Romney is a placeholder, The GOP is looking at 2016 and not this election cycle. They will shoot to control the House & Senate certainly and use those to block anything proposed by President Obama. They will also work out different means of voter suppression and campaign tactics courtesy of Citizens United, yet they are not trying to win this one.

Romney was the choice well before the primaries even started, however it is worth watching who he picks for VP as that could well be the set up for the next time around.

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Michael Tomasky on the (Possible) Coming Obama Landslide [View all] babylonsister Aug 2012 OP

How about a complete stunner...President Obama plus both houses... rfranklin Aug 2012 #1

need at least 61 senators - not going to happen - n/t lapfog_1 Aug 2012 #5

the filibuster, atleast as it now stands, is history. There will be a new cloture rule passed by grantcart Aug 2012 #8

66%? LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #13

current filibuster has only been in its current form 37 years. grantcart Aug 2012 #34

The only guaranteed way the filibuster is rescinded is if the Rs win both houses and the Presidency LonePirate Aug 2012 #30

They changed it before and they can change it again. grantcart Aug 2012 #35

Of course McConnell will try to block any rule change. alfredo Aug 2012 #43

Only need 51 votes to pass a rule change at the begining of a new session. grantcart Aug 2012 #56

I bet McConnell will find a way to run out the clock. alfredo Aug 2012 #58

I Agree, But Only If DallasNE Aug 2012 #52

Unless Reid is NOT bluffing about tightening the restriction on the filibuster rule (as long as we Grown2Hate Aug 2012 #11

"Then maybe something can be accomplished." Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #26

We can't afford to get lazy. Volunteer, donate, whatever you can do because $$$$$ is on their side. jillan Aug 2012 #2

Yes. And for all potential first-time lurkers, here's (one of) the link(s): Amonester Aug 2012 #10

And if you're in PA, check that your ID and voter registration match exactly Patiod Aug 2012 #44

Electoral-vote.com has Obama at 332 EVs: jenmito Aug 2012 #3

I'm stickin' with my own outlier: 413 sofa king Aug 2012 #4

The Rs have staked the entire election on the bad economy they created and continue to sustain stopbush Aug 2012 #6

Electoral college opinion maps hint at landslide possibility Ira Aug 2012 #7

Welcome to DU, Ira! Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #16

Three upcoming events that will shape the GOP race vinny9698 Aug 2012 #9

I'm not sure any of those will have much effect starroute Aug 2012 #17

The debates will effectively end MittTwitt's campaign. speedoo Aug 2012 #19

Agree, plus the economy WI_DEM Aug 2012 #27

Voter ID laws, voter purges, voter ID laws, voter purges, we ignore these at our peril Ian_rd Aug 2012 #12

There has been more exposure on these issues than in the past. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #14

Local Dems are not flush with cash like the Rs are Patiod Aug 2012 #45

If voter ID is really a concern for you, please let friends and family know they can go to..... Tarheel_Dem Aug 2012 #20

I am most concerned about vote flipping ................ SILVER__FOX52 Aug 2012 #28

We can afford NO leeway DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #15

They are going to rig the electronic voting system! There are really no defenses set up. Dustlawyer Aug 2012 #18

I must agree with you. Somehow, by hook or crook asjr Aug 2012 #24

But without both the Senate AND House, AND a way around the filibuster...... groundloop Aug 2012 #21

Having lived through the 1992 UK General Election... mwooldri Aug 2012 #22

It is still possible Romney could win, But I agree an Obama landslide is entirely possible Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #23

depends on who counts the votes Ironblood Aug 2012 #25

"Rs have invested heavily in the political equivalent .... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #29

Stalin gasser85 Aug 2012 #48

It's actually the central tabulators in each Parish or County and who controls the Clerk of Court in juajen Aug 2012 #53

my prediction mgcgulfcoast Aug 2012 #31

One thing I disagree with - Romney being up 188-182 by the time the west clocks in... Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #32

Whatever Obama’s number is at 10 pm Eastern, add those 78 EV’s—they’re a mortal lock underpants Aug 2012 #33

His taxes may be a deciding factor.... thecentristword Aug 2012 #36

Well he certainly isn't hiding that tacky tie. Kurovski Aug 2012 #40

It'll be the Rethugicans fault if the Pres. wins in a landslide agentS Aug 2012 #37

Even if you look at the worst case scenario which is RCP davidpdx Aug 2012 #38

...to Boze's ear. Kurovski Aug 2012 #39

Not the point. daybranch Aug 2012 #41

I agree with you, but if babylonsister Aug 2012 #42

Good points all. Especially that last sentence. Patiod Aug 2012 #46

We can but hope (and work, obviously.:)) malthaussen Aug 2012 #50

Obama may well win, but .... bucolic_frolic Aug 2012 #47

Take the discredited Rasmussen out of the mix and polls are currently showing grantcart Aug 2012 #49

Mittwit is a black hole. hifiguy Aug 2012 #51

The fun part for me... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #57

I have been saying this all along Sherman A1 Aug 2012 #54

I've been thinking this for a while nradisic Aug 2012 #55