2016 Postmortem

beam me up scottie

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35. Oh I do, I had the pleasure of both meeting and voting for him.

Reply to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #33)

Wed Sep 30, 2015, 11:28 PM

Sep 2015

Vermonters love their junior Senator, the hatred for him here makes me sick.

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Clinton angry at gay-friendly passports, worried about Fox/Palin [View all] Prism Sep 2015 OP

Ah yes, Hillary the "Leader", worried more about bad publicity than real families. peacebird Sep 2015 #1

Hillary shows her true colors once again...why this country needs a visionary like Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #27

she can live with that. It really is roguevalley Sep 2015 #36

If Senator Warren said yes to being the V.P. if she was selected... Duckfan Oct 2015 #55

I think it's a foregone conclusion Warren would say yes to Bernie when he offers her the VP slot on the ticket...and when duty calls... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #67

No. Warren can be far more effective in the Senate. jeff47 Oct 2015 #80

Disappointing email dump today, wasn't it? The disappointment is palpable, and not just RW. Sad. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

Disappointment requires expectations Prism Sep 2015 #3

I don't care what she says to her staff in emails. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #11

I think what she says here matters Prism Sep 2015 #14

somehow she doesn't seem artislife Oct 2015 #57

Oh, yes. Her thoughts on this issue do matter. Fawke Em Oct 2015 #79

Very disappointing to see that Clinton was letting Palin and Fox News drive the agenda. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #19

The OP quotes Hillary more worried about Fox, something that has always made me angry about Dems, sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #40

Yep. I guess the McCarthy revelations murielm99 Oct 2015 #58

More proof Hillary doesn't have character or leadership qualities to be president. askew Sep 2015 #4

The WP article "proves" there was great disappointment in the email dump today, and anything Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #5

Were you disappointed? Frankly I could not care less about these distractions which is why THIS OP sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #41

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The disappointment of nada on the email and the McCarthy bombshell made for a sad, sad, day. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #8

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I'm a Sanders supporter and I think the McCarthy bombshell was great! iwillalwayswonderwhy Sep 2015 #42

How sad, really. I see a lot of projection in that comment. I care about THIS COUNTRY. sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #44

Prism is gay and is not a "Hillary hater". beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #16

One thing is fo sho...Bernie will not disappoint. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #28

He's not perfect but he never pandered to the right wing. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #31

I hear ya...but Bernie's perfect enough for me! Gotta love him! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #33

Oh I do, I had the pleasure of both meeting and voting for him. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #35

It is sickening especially since he has stood up for their candidate over and over again. It's sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #46

I'm sure some of them are, swift boating Dem candidates makes most DUers cringe. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47

And it's failing miserably, as Bernie continues his upward trend as more and more people get to know sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #50

Yes, embarrassed and ashamed...hard to believe the venomous personal attacks against Bernie being spewed by some, not all, on the other side. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #69

I see why you Vermonters love you some Bernie. Our two Senators are both Democrats, but I'd trade em in a heartbeat for Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #68

You do realize that you can have them all Mnpaul Oct 2015 #118

My gay ass will never vote for her and shit like this is just the tip of the iceberg for me. m-lekktor Sep 2015 #7

The completely baffling thing for me Prism Sep 2015 #12

BS. I think you should look into her efforts at the State Department RE: LGBT employees. Metric System Sep 2015 #17

I'm well aware of what she did at State Prism Sep 2015 #18

then why was she the first Obama administration figure to do it dsc Oct 2015 #75

Take off your partisan glasses for a sec there Prism Oct 2015 #103

You mean, like what she said in this email? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #81

LMAO! leftofcool Sep 2015 #15

You know your response is laughing at a LGBT person for objecting to bigotry toward LGBT persons. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #22

I'm with you! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #29

What is sad is DonCoquixote Oct 2015 #51

Lot's of room under Hillary's bus passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #54

+1. Well said. delrem Oct 2015 #64

We want a leader, not a weathervane. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #9

She waited until gay marriage had 58% supporting to come out for it jfern Sep 2015 #10

Seriously...Hillary obviously needs better pollsters to tell her what to think. InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #30

Hillary is the pragmatic candidate. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #13

That's him being actively uninvolved in the legislative process. Bonobo Sep 2015 #25

Today's meme is Bernie doesn't care about women and lgbt people. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #26

+1 Go Vols Oct 2015 #104

Bernie is as perfect as we are ever going to get in a politician, and in this country now controlled sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #48

no principles. This is so discouraging. If she makes it to the white house, it will be Doctor_J Sep 2015 #20

Her chances of makin it to the White House diminish by the day. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #32

Sounds more than just political, she could live with letting us use other descriptors as long as Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #21

You're so right Blue...yuk! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #34

Politically she'd gain more by standing on the side of progress Hydra Oct 2015 #53

I agree. delrem Oct 2015 #141

afraid of a Palin spanking? reddread Sep 2015 #23

where is the part where she was "angry" or "threw a fit"? not in the article linked nt msongs Sep 2015 #24

Yup. In fact she was a 100% cold political calculating machine. delrem Oct 2015 #66

So tired of Hillary's carefully poll-tested triangulation...how bout some good old-fashioned leadership? - such as that consistently displayed by Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #72

I would need to see the entire conversation moobu2 Sep 2015 #37

She's such a great person? nichomachus Oct 2015 #60

looks like you've fallen far all the right wing propaganda moobu2 Oct 2015 #76

she is just DREAMY! LOL snooper2 Oct 2015 #88

She's also the only viable Democrat in the race. moobu2 Oct 2015 #95

It was taken out of context Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #78

"She's such a great person" MindfulOne Oct 2015 #85

Yup. Every position is about zentrum Sep 2015 #38

Hmmm... toshiba783 Sep 2015 #43

"The new language was quickly dropped." Ino Oct 2015 #77

3 ... 2 ... 1 ... "10 Signs that Sanders Has a Gay Problem"; "Why Are Sanders Supporters So MisterP Sep 2015 #45

Ironic she's speaking to Human Rights Campaig this weekend, with Joe Biden, who has better cred? tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #49

Is this the same Human Rights Council headed by Saudi Arabia? n/t nichomachus Oct 2015 #56

It's called the Human Rights Campaign. Maybe you would know the name, if you cared. Metric System Oct 2015 #97

thanks, updated tomm2thumbs Oct 2015 #106

Clinton reportedly turned down the opportunity to deliver a keynote speech at the Human Rights Campa Go Vols Oct 2015 #105

Chill! She's still "evolving"! Check back with her in January, 2017. n/t RufusTFirefly Oct 2015 #52

This is kind of sad. Just another time when Clinton was more worried about PatrickforO Oct 2015 #59

Prism, here's a screen cap of that very email. It's sickening. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #61

To call this "sickening" is being kind. Can't wait to hear Hillary's excuse for this crapola. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #71

I liked Hillary quite a bit before this campaign DemocraticWing Oct 2015 #62

How is "Parent 1" and "Parent 2" gay friendly? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #63

I agree with your comments. MADem Oct 2015 #65

If you were adopted by two gay men, who should be put down as "mother"? jeff47 Oct 2015 #82

I understand it. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #100

No, you don't. Because there was no "two mother option". jeff47 Oct 2015 #101

She changed it to include Mother, Father and Parent LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #113

Do you really not understand the difference between bio parents and legal parents? Maven Oct 2015 #96

So an adoptive mother is not a mother? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #114

She's everything I thought she was...ugh! haikugal Oct 2015 #70

This comes as no surprise to me. TM99 Oct 2015 #73

Explain how being labelled "parent 2" is gay friendly? No gay parent I know would stand to be msanthrope Oct 2015 #74

Calling a gay man "mother" or a lesbian "father" is gay friendly? (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #83

If they choose it. Allowing the person applying to choose their own label...? msanthrope Oct 2015 #89

And when neither woman wants to declare herself a man on a government form? jeff47 Oct 2015 #91

Then they both choose mother. They choose. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #93

The form had a space for "Mother" and "Father". They did not get to both choose mother. (nt) jeff47 Oct 2015 #102

Right...and the point is that HRC was saying you don't change msanthrope Oct 2015 #107

Are you really really really really Puglover Oct 2015 #108

Edited Puglover Oct 2015 #109

What is your alternative solution? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #84

Mother and Father. Have the person choose what they are. nt msanthrope Oct 2015 #87

What if two women as parents both want to identify as mother? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #92

Then that's what they both choose. Read the email...... msanthrope Oct 2015 #94

The compromise was "Mother or Parent 1" and "Father or Parent 2," from what I've read. Metric System Oct 2015 #98

Apparently these folks never read "Heather has two mommies". JoePhilly Oct 2015 #99

Why don't you look at the form before you jump to conclusions. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #120

Why don't you look at the form in use at the time of the email 2011, and not the 2013 version? MindfulOne Oct 2015 #121

What form is THAT you just posted? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #136

K & R !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #86

Riiiight. LGBT families are "kind of" "sort of" equal but, ya know, second class. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #90

The furious spinning Puglover Oct 2015 #110

How can Hillary face down Putin if she can't even face down Palin et al? frylock Oct 2015 #111

She protected America from a bought of broadcasted Wasila Whine. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #128

She protected America. frylock Oct 2015 #129

....And heeeere's Bristol... LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #130

I can't imagine what Hillary would do to avoid having Bristol chirping at her.. frylock Oct 2015 #131

Ironically, the day Hillary sent this email LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #132

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Here's the actual form... LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #115

Hillary designed that form????? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #116

That is NOT the form that was in use at the time of the email. MindfulOne Oct 2015 #122

I get that, but DU is making Hillary's more inclusive alternative LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #126

Post #112 in this thread was hidden (not mine) ... Why??? JoePhilly Oct 2015 #117

Alert stalking Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #124

Looks that way to me too. JoePhilly Oct 2015 #125

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Some serious spin going on here. The old form said "mother" or "father", here's a pic: MindfulOne Oct 2015 #123

She opposed the offered change and suggested an alternative, LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #127

You don't think lgbt people should be disgusted with her over this? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #133

Some people on DU who identify as gay LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #134

So they have every right to be disgusted with her, this isn't just an excuse to bash Hillary? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #135

No. You are citing my response to Mindful One. LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #137

Of course they do, but the op was accused of being a Hillary hater for posting this. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #138

Remember when Hillary wasn't saying or doing anything this past spring? LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #139

Then take it up with the Hillary "bashers" beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #140

Does Hillary care more what Fox News and Sarah Palin think of her jfern Oct 2015 #142

But look, yon sunlight beams down upon her Aerows Oct 2015 #143