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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Snowden hasn't leaked anything from Hillary's email server. [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)22. 1) is false.
1) A chain is a strong as its weakest link. What the limited available evidence tells us is that the Clinton server was not the weakest link.
No, AOL actually does better with security than her team did with her server.
2) It is one thing to obtain the email address and another to discover the server. Email addresses, including the domain name, can be and regularly are aliased. Many of my correspondents have self.com email addresses but are served by commercial providers. A top hacker might be able to find the server anyway, but according to the Pando account, Guccifer hacked Blumenthal's account by guessing that he used his grandmother's name as the password. Pretty elementary.
Please stop commenting on technical issues. You have absolutely zero idea of what you are talking about. In fact, your comment here has made several people dumber.
Clinton's server is located at IP address 208.91.197.27. Everyone in the world can find that. That is the entire point of the DNS record "clintonemail.com". All those self.com emails that you claim obscure the real server likewise have a DNS entry pointing to the real server.
This does not require a "top hacker". It is utterly and completely trivial to find. Why? For the same reason the address is on the outside of an envelope. You have to know where to deliver it. So the systems are in place to make it trivial to find.
3) Your argument seems to be that the Clinton server could be hacked IF other accounts had been hacked first.
No, Clinton was broadcasting her server's identity to everyone she emailed. That's what @clintonemail.com at the end of the email address does. She used the email address to communicate with some foreign leaders too.
In addition, she accessed her email from outside the US - she claimed she didn't want to travel with multiple phones as her excuse for setting up the server. Her phone would be constantly accessing clintonemail.com, thus identifying it to the government of every country she traveled to. China and Russia aren't exactly known for not snooping on Internet service.
You really do not understand how Internet protocols and security work.
More to the point, could you show me the article about the State department's email system being hacked? 'Cause you are claiming all government IT systems are swiss cheese, and so Clinton was better off setting up her own server. So state's email system must have been hacked if it's so trivial. Where's the article?
Government IT systems get hacked largely because of two things:
1) There's a ton of them. Many, many, many tons. As in, you pile up the electrons that make up the 1s and 0s in the software and it adds up to tons. There is a joke that the NSA measures its computing power in acres. Securing every single one of those is not possible. So occasionally, one or more will get hacked.
2) The government is being targeted by other nation-states. They have resources so far beyond a normal "hacker" that things impossible for a "normal hacker" to do are trivial.
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That's correct, it wasn't her server that was hacked, it was on the other end. It wouldn't have
DanTex
Sep 2015
#13
With respect to the primary campaign, it's now gone beyond emails and the server
HereSince1628
Sep 2015
#12