2016 Postmortem

upaloopa

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69. So just how many things have been listed

Reply to ram2008 (Original post)

Fri Sep 18, 2015, 04:57 PM

Sep 2015

that will be her undoing.
I know you won't do it but correctrecord.org has a lot of Hillary policies. No you won't find any Bernie slams there just slams at repubs.
Or a neutral site is http:\\www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm

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Hillary's inability to answer ANYTHING directly is infuriating and will be her undoing. [View all] ram2008 Sep 2015 OP

OH PLEASE!!!!! bigdarryl Sep 2015 #1

Typical Non-Response billhicks76 Sep 2015 #51

I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt Boomer Sep 2015 #100

I Stopped After Seeing Her Ties To Bush Sr billhicks76 Sep 2015 #109

Heh. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #136

she can craft the answer that gets the most votes. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #145

Good Hillary type response. Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #117

You got the number one response slot and all you've got is that? nm rhett o rick Sep 2015 #153

7 out of context snippets each logically unworthy of any conclusion sown together to reach another conclusion? Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #2

hardly. she's consistently evasive. it's who she is cali Sep 2015 #4

big Daryl and Fred defend her no matter what. roguevalley Sep 2015 #45

So, where does she stand on the Keystone Pipeline? We know where sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #5

The OP is a logical trainwreck, there is nothing to discuss, which was my point. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #7

Where does your candidate stand on the Keystone Pipeline? This is an easy sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #12

There are 7 clipped quotes to reach 7 conclusions in the post, and 1 final one, all unconvincing, that is all I am saying. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #24

There are not 7 conclusions, only 1 ram2008 Sep 2015 #30

Plenty of time until it's too late. Fuddnik Sep 2015 #31

Exactly. SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #137

Thank you. I am completely opposed to the Pipeline and have been since it sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #46

Believe me, I am as passionate about the Keystone pipeline as any other thing. If Clinton comes Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #48

if she is not willing to take a stance on major policy issues questionseverything Sep 2015 #81

+1 BeanMusical Sep 2015 #140

No debates to this point Thespian2 Sep 2015 #106

"...plenty of time for clarity and persuasion." Paka Sep 2015 #93

Well, we know where YOU stand, then...there's still no good reason for your candidate to be vague. Ken Burch Sep 2015 #102

It is defeatist. LuvNewcastle Sep 2015 #120

I dont understand. Bubzer Sep 2015 #55

Post removed Post removed Sep 2015 #71

It's easy to say the OP is a "logical trainwreck" but harder to actually give evidence. Tell us her rhett o rick Sep 2015 #155

Which way is the wind blowing? 840high Sep 2015 #41

+1 leftofcool Sep 2015 #6

She has a loyalty to this administration and really doesn't want to undermine Obama. Laser102 Sep 2015 #29

That is so perfectly logical a thought that I am sure you will be soon be showered with praise. Fred Sanders Sep 2015 #36

I thought her loyalty was JackInGreen Sep 2015 #42

The Constitution? I didn't think any of these issues threaten our Constitution. Laser102 Sep 2015 #60

she is seeking the trust of our votes and refuses roguevalley Sep 2015 #94

And she will captain her ship JackInGreen Sep 2015 #103

. merrily Sep 2015 #130

Jenga!!! bvar22 Sep 2015 #50

+1 cui bono Sep 2015 #80

I don't think loyalty to the administration has a thing to do with this. merrily Sep 2015 #125

Except she's already attacked this administration jeff47 Sep 2015 #92

Bingo. She doesn't want to answer the question. It's that simple and it's obvious. merrily Sep 2015 #126

If her loyalty to the Obama administration prevents her from taking her owwn stances on things, JDPriestly Sep 2015 #101

Bingo. nt SusanCalvin Sep 2015 #146

It doesn't do anything to affect this adminstration for HRC or anyone else running in 2016 Ken Burch Sep 2015 #104

Her opinions don't affect Obama AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #149

Oh plez. That's a terrible rationalization. If she wants to be president she should tell us how rhett o rick Sep 2015 #156

I think the correct spelling is "colander" - you know, the thing with lots of holes in it? erronis Sep 2015 #47

If they are out of context, then you can put them into context for us? Bubzer Sep 2015 #52

So, what are her positions on the aforementioned topics? Nuclear Unicorn Sep 2015 #67

Please post her statements expressing her stance on each of the issues she equivocated on in her JDPriestly Sep 2015 #98

Then please find us her "in context" responses that actually tell us where she stands. I can't rhett o rick Sep 2015 #154

We can add fracking and college tuition to the list in the OP to which she has failed to rhett o rick Sep 2015 #159

Why is she 'putting the administration on notice'?? What does the administration sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #3

It's a use of language that more than equates her with Obama HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #9

It is sort of the perfect non-answer kenfrequed Sep 2015 #10

Well, it makes her look like she doesn't want to tell us where she stands. That's sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #14

Her advisors want to keep her fluid kenfrequed Sep 2015 #20

+100000000000000 azmom Sep 2015 #33

It's a meaningless, tough-sounding slogan n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #28

I can't believe the interview with Wolf MattP Sep 2015 #8

Hillary has too much class to call anyone a liar. leftofcool Sep 2015 #13

She could stand to use better words now to state her positions the op listed. Bubzer Sep 2015 #56

completely agree ibegurpard Sep 2015 #11

Welcome to Hillary's Waffle House nichomachus Sep 2015 #15

I Was Just Thinking The Same Thing The River Sep 2015 #19

^^^this^^^ & The only thing she doesn't waffle on is war. L0oniX Sep 2015 #25

ROFLMAO SoapBox Sep 2015 #35

Mmmm, policy waffles Fairgo Sep 2015 #65

Thanks for the laugh Depaysement Sep 2015 #95

Assuming you can get in. A lot of the time, there's just no access. merrily Sep 2015 #128

Yet she's the only one cranking out actual policy proposals. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #16

What are her policies on the Keystone Pipeline? On the TPP? On the sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #18

Cue some comment about getting all that information at the debates. Bubzer Sep 2015 #57

I realize that quantum physics and recent quantum chromodynamics theories suggest ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #21

Ah, more insults from the Bernie crowd. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #26

look who's talking. ah, the irony of you of all people cali Sep 2015 #39

You've laid out plenty of insults as well. Bubzer Sep 2015 #61

Yeah ibegurpard Sep 2015 #70

designated martyr MoveIt Sep 2015 #75

Hair shirts for everyone! Scootaloo Sep 2015 #89

Brownie points for cool vocabulary! kjones Sep 2015 #142

I see your fan club is out and about. leftofcool Sep 2015 #90

Ah, your fans are here... Katashi_itto Sep 2015 #118

Oh yeah. Puglover Sep 2015 #124

As best I can recall, during my first few months here, I was timid. Posted a lot of LOLs and K & Rs merrily Sep 2015 #131

Oh, I suspect she's been around more than that Scootaloo Sep 2015 #150

It would be real easy to counter what the "Bernie crowd" is saying by actually giving us some rhett o rick Sep 2015 #158

Lol! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #27

Yeah. That one is a keeper. sarge43 Sep 2015 #32

! Fuddnik Sep 2015 #37

what a load of garbage ibegurpard Sep 2015 #43

Its easy when industry writes them for you! MoveIt Sep 2015 #74

Huh? smiley Sep 2015 #83

"She's the only one cranking out policy proposals". "He's cranking out policy proposals..." DisgustipatedinCA Sep 2015 #91

What policy questions has Bernie refused to answer? JDPriestly Sep 2015 #105

LOL! merrily Sep 2015 #129

There are no "policy proposals". The OP gives her stands on issues. If you have better info rhett o rick Sep 2015 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Sep 2015 #17

Hillary is desperate to avoid debates. backscatter712 Sep 2015 #22

Infuriating to people who already hate her, sure. Some people prefer the GWB "I don't do nuance" DanTex Sep 2015 #23

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2015 #53

Yes, wanting to hear definitive policy positions is a clear sign of hate. Scuba Sep 2015 #121

She hasn't been told what to think by her owners hifiguy Sep 2015 #34

Sleepwalking through the issues AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #38

However, she is excellent at evolving (aka waffling) and speaks argle-bargle fluently. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #40

of course, she has to run everything by her marketing team and image consultants. bowens43 Sep 2015 #44

And Goldman. hifiguy Sep 2015 #63

As a supporter of the Fight for $15, I'm furious, for sure Dems to Win Sep 2015 #49

Unkind to HRC. I'm sure she meant that the minimum wage should be higher than $15 in places merrily Sep 2015 #132

The pattern is to consider both sides to be wrong and devise a plan to get both sides to shut up. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2015 #54

they honestly think this waffling will let them appeal to both sides of any issue MisterP Sep 2015 #58

I have noticed that she doesn't give Duval Sep 2015 #59

There should be no confusion houston_radical Sep 2015 #62

K&R - Great questions. Good OP.. It's esp. disturbing seeing all 7 in one place. -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #64

This "deferring to her ex-boss" line is baloney. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #66

i don't understand why this is such a difficult task for clinton elana i am Sep 2015 #68

So just how many things have been listed upaloopa Sep 2015 #69

Just checked the website houston_radical Sep 2015 #73

So she has positions right? upaloopa Sep 2015 #76

Seriously? houston_radical Sep 2015 #78

propaganda site. nuff said cali Sep 2015 #85

None of this bodes well for an HRC presidency. Secretive? Evasive? Dismissive senz Sep 2015 #72

"Secretive, evasive, dismissive." hifiguy Sep 2015 #77

Thanks for that. It's been a long time senz Sep 2015 #84

That's a pretty low bar. hifiguy Sep 2015 #86

Yep he was one of the worst. But even he was better than senz Sep 2015 #115

I've probably read at least a dozen books on Nixon. hifiguy Sep 2015 #166

So you're comparing Hillary to Richard Nixon now? ConservativeDemocrat Sep 2015 #97

Your link is, at least temporarily, unpersuasive. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #112

It's fair in some respects hifiguy Sep 2015 #165

The worst aspects of all of the last three administrations put together. The Green Manalishi Sep 2015 #107

Depressing indeed. senz Sep 2015 #116

Did a Google Search on two issues where HRC is mum d_legendary1 Sep 2015 #79

It shows her cowardice and lack of conviction Android3.14 Sep 2015 #82

Passive and indecisive Scootaloo Sep 2015 #87

That is a whopper totally beyond description. hifiguy Sep 2015 #88

Among several big reasons this is #1 for me. Indepatriot Sep 2015 #96

Perfectly Clear portlander23 Sep 2015 #99

Perfect timing, thanks for the laugh! canoeist52 Sep 2015 #108

"I hope that clarifies and that this could be the last word on those words..." sorechasm Sep 2015 #167

It's good politics. Kang Colby Sep 2015 #110

But the nomination doesn't belong to her. Maedhros Sep 2015 #162

She has to catch the fly ball first, and then catch the guy stealing third base. sorechasm Sep 2015 #168

She's like Jello. Try to nail her down. EEO Sep 2015 #111

These don't represent all of her replies but ... Kablooie Sep 2015 #113

You forget what she does say. She thinks Congress is shameful towards women for defunding Planned McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #114

Yeah, she's all heart... Ino Sep 2015 #119

Lol! BeanMusical Sep 2015 #152

K&R Thanks, ram2008. Scuba Sep 2015 #122

Most issues don't have clear definitive answers. DCBob Sep 2015 #123

here's how you answer then: ibegurpard Sep 2015 #127

Ms. WindFinger von Weathervane. [nt] Jester Messiah Sep 2015 #133

It was a viable strategy when she was running unopposed Babel_17 Sep 2015 #134

This is the kind of thread that turns us against each other Onlooker Sep 2015 #135

I have no problem being "against" Hillary supporters. Maedhros Sep 2015 #164

Her non-answers reveal her positions. I can answer pretty accurately for you. NorthCarolina Sep 2015 #138

This ^ AlbertCat Sep 2015 #147

Kick and R BeanMusical Sep 2015 #139

...and don't forget! disndat Sep 2015 #141

She's saying what most politicians would say to avoid confrontation 4dsc Sep 2015 #143

Shhhhhhhhhh! AlbertCat Sep 2015 #144

I'll Have More To Say On This........... NonMetro Sep 2015 #148

Almost like the tRump Faux pas Sep 2015 #151

Yes a couple more are college tuition and fracking. Her responses to both were rhetoric. rhett o rick Sep 2015 #160

It may be infuriating to many rock Sep 2015 #161

she's running a perfect pre-internet campaign: all image and no substance yurbud Sep 2015 #163