2016 Postmortem

beam me up scottie

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99. Yes, it is.

Mon Sep 14, 2015, 03:36 PM

Sep 2015

And I'm sincerely sorry for everything my lgbt brothers and sisters have to endure on DU.

Every single bigot on DU should be ts'd.

There is no excuse.

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Bernie Sanders on Marriage Equality October 23, 2006 [View all] Chitown Kev Sep 2015 OP

Marriage is a states issue, that's what it is." Sanders. nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #1

Bush was President and civil unions were legal in Vermont virtualobserver Sep 2015 #6

Quiet as that was kept Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #10

Those Bushes are such private people virtualobserver Sep 2015 #11

bernie did not want the feds restorefreedom Sep 2015 #13

It isn't my statement. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #15

This message was self-deleted by its author restorefreedom Sep 2015 #18

it is still out of context restorefreedom Sep 2015 #21

No, it isn't. Watch the video. There is no qualifier. Pretty simple stuff. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #22

he has always been for full equality rights restorefreedom Sep 2015 #25

I never said anything different. You are arguing something that isn't there. nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #26

well then all i have to say restorefreedom Sep 2015 #32

Bernie did not want the Federal Govt to be able to over ride states, like his own sabrina 1 Sep 2015 #88

Only Massachusetts had same-sex marriage laws on the books Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #97

Bernie Sanders supported Civil Unions Period. He was afraid of the Federal Govt being able to sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #134

Hmmmmmm....the Federal Marriage Amendment had failed twice already. Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #16

if you are suggesting restorefreedom Sep 2015 #19

That's not what I'm suggesting Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #24

Bernie's vote against DOMA proves otherwise. That was in 1996. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29

i have dates too restorefreedom Sep 2015 #34

Both of my IL Senators voted against DOMA Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #46

Clinton: "I believe marriage is not just a bond but a sacred bond between a man and a woman. Zorra Sep 2015 #2

I'm not a Hillary Clinton supporter (contrary to popular opinion) Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #3

This thread will be about whatever DUers want it to be. SMC22307 Sep 2015 #5

After the bullshit that was pulled on me yesterday? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #9

Oh, dear. Lemme guess: Offensive post(s), hide(s), accusations of alert-stalking!11! SMC22307 Sep 2015 #14

I am known for "jumping right in the fray" Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #20

"Compliment." SMC22307 Sep 2015 #27

Is that something like playing "race cards"? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #31

I dunno. Ask those counting black and brown people at Sanders events... SMC22307 Sep 2015 #48

Jury Results: 4-3 to keep stevenleser Sep 2015 #70

chafee and om support ss rights and marriage restorefreedom Sep 2015 #12

I'm pwning it. Deal. nt Zorra Sep 2015 #7

Yet, you seem to be driven solely by the need to disparage Sanders and his supporters. Maedhros Sep 2015 #103

right. Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #135

"Do you think NY State should recognize gay marriage"? Hillary: "NO". Zorra Sep 2015 #4

Bernie was asked a different question Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #23

In 1996, Rep, Bernie Sanders voted against the Defense of Marriage Act, an act that Zorra Sep 2015 #55

I'm gay, yes...been OTC for a long time Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #61

I totally get it. Zorra Sep 2015 #71

WHOA SusanaMontana41 Oct 2015 #133

Overtaken by events? brooklynite Sep 2015 #8

Has he evolved? nt. SouthernProgressive Sep 2015 #17

Bernie didn't need to, he always supported civil rights for everyone. Unlike your candidate. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #30

The evidence of this video says otherwise. Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #33

No, it doesn't. If he was against marriage equality he would have voted for DOMA. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #35

Barack Obama has never been FOR DOMA Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #42

Who said anything about Obama? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #43

If you really want to bring Obama into this I have four words: Donnie McClurkin/Rick Warren. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #47

You can go for the 2009 DOMA brief, as well Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #49

My point is that you brought Obama into this like he was a champion for lgbt people. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #50

For one, Obama has been a champion for LGBT people Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #51

"But I can fairly assess what Obama's overall record is." beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #52

Oh, by the way, my cousin, ChitownKev, is an openly gay man MrScorpio Sep 2015 #53

As do I, but I have every right to defend smears against my candidate. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #54

What does that even mean? MrScorpio Sep 2015 #59

He didn't claim that Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #62

Sanders in the video said that he supported civil unions and that marriage was a state issue MrScorpio Sep 2015 #66

Exactly, he didn't want the feds to overturn states' same sex marriage laws. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #68

Remember, one state already had same-sex marriage laws at that time Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #69

I'm from Vermont, I know the history. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #72

I've researched that history Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #77

Yes, Dean's decision to not have a public ceremony was disappointing beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #79

Can't blame you for that... :) Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #86

It was one hell of a party! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #89

We thought that we were going to have a similar party in Maine in 2009 Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #101

But as of this year voters can no longer deny you the right to marry the person you love. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #104

Remember, the EEOC has, in effect Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #109

Oh Obama does get big kudos from me for that and his other stances against bigotry. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #111

Here's a secret Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #115

When I heard him speak in 2004 I thought maybe... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #117

After Ohio was called, I asked my friend did she want to jump on Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #120

Bernie was concerned about the Federal government overturning the laws ALLOWING... virtualobserver Sep 2015 #112

When Sanders said that he supported civil unions as a state's rights issue... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #74

I'm not going to argue against a strawman. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #76

I'm using his own words... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #84

Strawman: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #87

What false claim are we making here? MrScorpio Sep 2015 #92

Because someone claimed he didn't support marriage equality in 2006. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #95

Kev pointed out that in 2006, Sanders stood for civil unions as a states rights issue... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #98

But he then went on to make a positive claim. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #102

He quite clearly said that he didn't want the feds to overturn state laws... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #107

sigh... beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #110

It's not a theory, it's his own words... In 2006. MrScorpio Sep 2015 #114

This fact here Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #82

Well, hell yeah... MrScorpio Sep 2015 #85

Bernie Sanders was asked, in the Vermont Senate debate of 2006 Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #56

Again there is no "evidence" that he didn't support marriage equality in 2006. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #58

When the state of Minnesota turned down an anti-gay marriage amendment in 2012 Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #63

Where is your evidence that Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #64

Where's your evidence that he did? Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #65

Here: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #67

But you can't say that he did. Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #73

Your claim that he didn't support marriage equality without any supporting evidence is a smear. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #75

there were plenty of politicians who publicly opposed marriage equality and voted against DOMA dsc Sep 2015 #78

Still not proof Bernie didn't support marriage equality in 2006. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #80

but his anti DOMA vote is no proof that he did dsc Sep 2015 #81

You guys made the claim that he didn't support marriage equality in 2006 and you can't back it up. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #83

For the fucking love of God you should know better. I don't even criticize Hillary for being about Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #100

I am not saying Bernie is anti gay dsc Sep 2015 #119

ba restorefreedom Sep 2015 #37

Seriously? He didn't want the feds to be able to override the states who made ssm legal. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #28

I know all of that Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #36

He doesn't need to he voted against DOMA in 1996. He was for marriage equality then. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #39

total crap and everyone knows it restorefreedom Sep 2015 #41

Gee Kev, in 2006 the only Presidential contender to support marriage equality was Dennis Kucinich Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #94

Carol Moseley Braun (my former Senator and a hot mess) and Al Sharpton Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #106

Yes and I love them for it, but like Dennis none of them were candidates on my ballot my the time Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #113

Here's my thing Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #118

I can research his record and make decisions for myself. AlbertCat Sep 2015 #122

nicely done restorefreedom Sep 2015 #38

Thank you, they're going to have to do better than I think = it's true. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #40

do you mean restorefreedom Sep 2015 #44

Fellow Bernistas: Feel free to copy and use my post verbatim every time someone pulls this bullshit. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #45

I love you b m u s! Zorra Sep 2015 #57

Right back atcha, Zorra. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #60

Prism has been demonstrated to be very precient. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #91

Prism totally rocks. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #93

I remember because the casual bullshit people say about LGBT is memorably painful. Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #96

Yes, it is. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #99

You forgot one: Maedhros Sep 2015 #105

Fixed it, thanks! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #108

Bernie Sanders has been one of the strongest straight elected voices for LGBT equality since he Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #90

lol Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #116

Your posts are empty and meaningless. Maedhros Sep 2015 #121

Kickety kicking this because once again someone is claiming Bernie opposed same sex marriage. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #132

But I never claimed that he opposed it Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #136

No, you didn't. The blogger at Slate and MADem made that claim. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #137

Bernie has a great record of support for LGBTQ people DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #123

It's nice to see that Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #124

I think Hillary, Bernie, or Martin would all be fine for LGBTQ people honestly. DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #125

Yep. Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #128

I don't think Sanders has ever opposed SSM jfern Sep 2015 #126

It's very possible that Sanders never opposed SSM Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #127

Well for comparison, Hillary was a SSM opponent in early 2013 jfern Sep 2015 #130

Well...to some extent Chitown Kev Sep 2015 #131

Oh, Jesus Prism Sep 2015 #129