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Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #102)

Thu Sep 10, 2015, 09:19 AM

108. It is not a "dog whistle" for war, for fuck's sake. "Distrust and verify" IS this deal.

"It's too bad HC supporters choose to turn a blind eye to her tactics. Not surprising, just sad."
Your line would make sense if you switched out "HC" for "BS."

I am not "turning a blind eye" to anything. I, and certainly Hillary's audience, can see that it is a riff on Reagan's old "trust but verify" line (which is actually a Russian proverb,
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust,_but_verify ) which he used to sell the 1987 INF Treaty with the Soviet Union. She made it even stronger, "distrust and verify," to emphasize we are being even tougher than St. Ronnie and this is at least a good a deal as Reagan got. She is trying to bolster waning support for this deal:

Clinton stated, in a modification of Ronald Reagan’s famous line, that “My approach will be distrust and verify.” 
...
While President Obama has focused on building congressional support, Clinton will have to defend the nuclear agreement to the American people. That will not be easy. Just yesterday the respected Pew Research Center released a survey showing that popular support for the agreement—never robust—has fallen substantially during the past two months. In July, 33 percent of the people said they backed the deal, 45 percent opposed it, and 22 percent said they didn’t know. Now only 21 percent express approval (down 12 points since the previous survey), 49 percent stand opposed, and fully 30 percent say they don’t know. Obama may be winning the inside battle, but he is losing the outside war.


http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/markaz/posts/2015/09/09-hrc-iran-nuclear-agreement-galston

She is not "pandering" to the right. That would involve standing next to Trump, Palin and Cruz and calling for a renunciation of this deal. Her speech supports the deal and uses language the right of center folks can understand that reassures them this deal is good.

You should be applauding her for her efforts. Instead, you applaud Bernie preaching to the choir, like that is going to accomplish anything. Hillary is trying to keep us out of war. That an OP on a progressive board lies about that is what is sad.



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