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tularetom

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39. Lets not forget that there are five other parties to this Iran agreement

Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:51 PM

Sep 2015

The five permanent members of the UN Security Council (China, France, Russia, United Kingdom, United States)—plus Germany all have something to say about this.

She might be itching to get her hands on the red phone so she can bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran, but we have some very influential and powerful partners who won't be happy if she threatens to go all Dick Cheney on them and start WWIII.

I don't know who the hell she's trying to impress with all this cowboy rhetoric but what she's going to do is isolate us from our allies, and make us sort of an international pariah along with Israel.

But then, I guess nobody should really be surprised. After all, we've been warned.

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Atlantic's Steve Clemons: Hillary Clinton Gave A "Very Neoconservative" Speech. [View all] elleng Sep 2015 OP

It is disturbing HassleCat Sep 2015 #1

Her 'plans' to be the nominee should have nothing to do with whom we vote for, elleng Sep 2015 #2

sorry, but this really is a Potemkin Village Primary cali Sep 2015 #4

IF we DECIDE it is, elleng Sep 2015 #10

This is a big deal coming from Steve Clemons... KoKo Sep 2015 #3

Yes it is. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #6

Yes it is. elleng Sep 2015 #11

yes...it's a HUGE deal. How anyone, after listening to that speech, can vote for Hillary, that warmonger, is beyond me. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #35

And her fans are accusing Sanders of dissing Obama? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #5

Yeah, gonna be fun to watch the spin on that.. frylock Sep 2015 #8

they have already started. "PRESIDENT WALKER!" roguevalley Sep 2015 #13

Yep. hifiguy Sep 2015 #20

Isn't he at like 5 percent? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #54

according to today's meme from DINO mountain, criticizing the president runs the risk of Doctor_J Sep 2015 #37

Of course it's only for Sanders jfern Sep 2015 #42

What hyperbole. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7

no. not even close cali Sep 2015 #14

"Very neoconservative" SonderWoman Sep 2015 #18

you don't even have a tenuous grasp on this subject cali Sep 2015 #26

LOL. What will Bernie do differently in regards to Iran? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #29

Which of our allies is Iran killing, Sonderwoman? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #36

Does Iran fund terrorism? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #50

Certainly not more then SA Alittleliberal Sep 2015 #78

As Cali is advising, please educate yourself Scootaloo Sep 2015 #32

I'm very educated. You lightweights aren't informing me of anything. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #45

sorry, but you've revealed your lack of knowledge conclusively. cali Sep 2015 #61

LOL. From the person who said... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #64

c'mon, you can do better than that. oh, wait, I forgot who i was addressing cali Sep 2015 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author hedda_foil Sep 2015 #113

Lightweights? Nice personal attack. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2015 #88

Look, some people just get a pass. Others do not. Here at DU, anyway. MADem Sep 2015 #46

"SHUT UP, YOU DON'T HAVE THE MICROPHONE!" SonderWoman Sep 2015 #48

Wasn't that something? And the irony is, he wasn't being "consistent" like some might claim. MADem Sep 2015 #96

From the Vermont Cynic article you posted. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #109

Unnnh....that isn't a "hit piece." That's coverage of a decades - old campaign DEBATE. MADem Sep 2015 #110

The critique of Bernie in that Counterpunch article is basically that he is too close to and too JDPriestly Sep 2015 #77

Do take your objections up with the author of the piece, if it concerns you. MADem Sep 2015 #79

I just happen to agree with Bernie. That's why he is just right on the issues for me. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #91

But the "hit piece" on Clinton that fired up this thread? That's just dandy. Mmm hmmm. nt MADem Sep 2015 #92

His voting record is excellent in my view. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #94

And this is the most ridiculous critique kenfrequed Sep 2015 #100

Bravo! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #101

Oh please--what's absurd is the surfeit of scrutiny of one candidate, MADem Sep 2015 #102

There is no valid point. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #104

No, I'm not. Good effort at deflection, but fail. nt MADem Sep 2015 #105

Do you even read what you write or post? kenfrequed Sep 2015 #106

See, you're showing your bias right there. MADem Sep 2015 #107

Again. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #108

You are the one with the insult bombs, not me. MADem Sep 2015 #116

Cite it. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #121

People reading here do enjoy the gift of literacy. They can read what you write. MADem Sep 2015 #122

So... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #123

*giggle artislife Sep 2015 #112

In one word and one emoticon, you've managed to MADem Sep 2015 #115

Like the exodus isn't going to it's own echo chamber....ha! artislife Sep 2015 #117

This isn't the only pub in town, lad. MADem Sep 2015 #118

Good luck and good bye! artislife Sep 2015 #119

"Neocon" is not the same as "Republican". jeff47 Sep 2015 #17

and Lieberman supports the Iran deal dsc Sep 2015 #23

bzzzt. fail. cali Sep 2015 #33

Author says "very neoconservative". SonderWoman Sep 2015 #27

It is very neoconservative. She's threatening military force. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30

Can you please list... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #40

So you don't understand the vast gulf between threatening force jeff47 Sep 2015 #63

So you got nothing, huh? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #65

No, that would be you who has nothing. jeff47 Sep 2015 #66

Denial seems to be your favored tactic when you ave your nose rubbed in the fact that LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #80

Still waiting..... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #59

this Steve Clemons (if that's his real name) doesn't know what he's talking about. what a rube! nashville_brook Sep 2015 #19

about Steve Clemons, fyi: elleng Sep 2015 #53

Do a search for Steve Clemons so you know who he is....and, KoKo Sep 2015 #21

Has to? No she doesn't. She's not SECSTATE now. Kerry is. MADem Sep 2015 #52

In spite of the implication of her speech, it was Kerry working with the P5+1 who got the interim karynnj Sep 2015 #70

Is there something in the term "groundwork" that stymies people on DU? Does WHAT things? MADem Sep 2015 #81

the point was if you parse her sentence with no detailed information karynnj Sep 2015 #86

Good GAWD, does NO ONE on DU understand how IRAN works? MADem Sep 2015 #87

one question - Who negotiated the interim deal? karynnj Sep 2015 #89

If you "don't question," then give credit where due. Fachrissake, she's the one taking the "heat" MADem Sep 2015 #90

I have given her credit often for endosing the deal early karynnj Sep 2015 #95

Well, she's damned no matter what--you insist she doesn't deserve much credit, the GOP says she MADem Sep 2015 #97

I never said she does not deserve "much" credit, that is your interpretation karynnj Sep 2015 #98

There it is--you're doing it.... MADem Sep 2015 #99

If this were a male secretary of state - in the same position, I would say exactly the same karynnj Sep 2015 #103

Her team is not claiming just "setting the groundwork" --- here's her internet ad from twitter karynnj Sep 2015 #120

She also wants to throw 10 Billion dollars at the failed drug war Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #9

Delete KoKo Sep 2015 #15

yes god forbid we treat addition in this country dsc Sep 2015 #24

Yeah, I haven't had a drink in over 15 years, myself. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #44

I agree with the need for alternatives dsc Sep 2015 #55

There are also doctors who are too afraid of the DEA to manage peoples' pain effectively. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #85

when are people gonna wake up? questionseverything Sep 2015 #111

Treating addiction is the right way. DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #51

Is anyone surprised by this? PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #12

Chicken clucks, owl hoots, hifiguy Sep 2015 #22

On foreign policy I'd expect nothing else n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #28

"The real thing going on in the Middle East is the Sunni/Shia civil war elleng Sep 2015 #16

She seems to leave the "Details" of issues to other people.... KoKo Sep 2015 #25

Something like that, elleng Sep 2015 #34

Sanders is my first choice, but o'Malley's sounding great too Scootaloo Sep 2015 #38

Absolute rubbish. I wouldn't allow a neocon to babysit my cats on vacation. Hortensis Sep 2015 #31

Lets not forget that there are five other parties to this Iran agreement tularetom Sep 2015 #39

That picture speaks a million words hifiguy Sep 2015 #49

+100%! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #60

Is this her new campaign "reset"? SoapBox Sep 2015 #41

Well she knows the "left" isn't buying her BS ibegurpard Sep 2015 #43

Some of the so called left here are all aboard the Clinton train! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #68

She could do a prime-time all-network sitdown with Cheney hifiguy Sep 2015 #71

So true. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #72

OK, THAT one made me LOL! hifiguy Sep 2015 #75

Oh, they wouldn't even break a sweat spinning that one LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #83

Hillary says, "It's time America got back to war!" Chelsea first. jalan48 Sep 2015 #47

Or Marc, the hedge fund owner. Divernan Sep 2015 #67

Preposterous tymorial Sep 2015 #56

Please look into Martin O'Malley, tymorial: elleng Sep 2015 #58

+1 hifiguy Sep 2015 #62

She is a chickenhawk neo-con. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #57

I was taught that the wolf in sheep's clothing was more to be feared delrem Sep 2015 #76

Nope. AzDar Sep 2015 #73

Meet the new Hillary, same as the old Hillary. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #74

Like shrub 2.0 HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #82

Hillary. 99Forever Sep 2015 #84

wow. beating the war drums as she sinks in the polls restorefreedom Sep 2015 #93

If I wanted another neocon in the White House, I'd vote for-- wait for it--- John Poet Sep 2015 #114