2016 Postmortem

cali

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26. you don't even have a tenuous grasp on this subject

Wed Sep 9, 2015, 05:40 PM

Sep 2015

Kagan is one of the founders of PNAC, has served as an advisor to hilly and supports her. And bernie is in no way a neocon, nor is he aligned with them. You sure don't let facts get in your way.

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Atlantic's Steve Clemons: Hillary Clinton Gave A "Very Neoconservative" Speech. [View all] elleng Sep 2015 OP

It is disturbing HassleCat Sep 2015 #1

Her 'plans' to be the nominee should have nothing to do with whom we vote for, elleng Sep 2015 #2

sorry, but this really is a Potemkin Village Primary cali Sep 2015 #4

IF we DECIDE it is, elleng Sep 2015 #10

This is a big deal coming from Steve Clemons... KoKo Sep 2015 #3

Yes it is. Fawke Em Sep 2015 #6

Yes it is. elleng Sep 2015 #11

yes...it's a HUGE deal. How anyone, after listening to that speech, can vote for Hillary, that warmonger, is beyond me. Go Bernie! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2015 #35

And her fans are accusing Sanders of dissing Obama? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #5

Yeah, gonna be fun to watch the spin on that.. frylock Sep 2015 #8

they have already started. "PRESIDENT WALKER!" roguevalley Sep 2015 #13

Yep. hifiguy Sep 2015 #20

Isn't he at like 5 percent? Fawke Em Sep 2015 #54

according to today's meme from DINO mountain, criticizing the president runs the risk of Doctor_J Sep 2015 #37

Of course it's only for Sanders jfern Sep 2015 #42

What hyperbole. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #7

no. not even close cali Sep 2015 #14

"Very neoconservative" SonderWoman Sep 2015 #18

you don't even have a tenuous grasp on this subject cali Sep 2015 #26

LOL. What will Bernie do differently in regards to Iran? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #29

Which of our allies is Iran killing, Sonderwoman? Scootaloo Sep 2015 #36

Does Iran fund terrorism? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #50

Certainly not more then SA Alittleliberal Sep 2015 #78

As Cali is advising, please educate yourself Scootaloo Sep 2015 #32

I'm very educated. You lightweights aren't informing me of anything. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #45

sorry, but you've revealed your lack of knowledge conclusively. cali Sep 2015 #61

LOL. From the person who said... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #64

c'mon, you can do better than that. oh, wait, I forgot who i was addressing cali Sep 2015 #69

This message was self-deleted by its author hedda_foil Sep 2015 #113

Lightweights? Nice personal attack. n/t totodeinhere Sep 2015 #88

Look, some people just get a pass. Others do not. Here at DU, anyway. MADem Sep 2015 #46

"SHUT UP, YOU DON'T HAVE THE MICROPHONE!" SonderWoman Sep 2015 #48

Wasn't that something? And the irony is, he wasn't being "consistent" like some might claim. MADem Sep 2015 #96

From the Vermont Cynic article you posted. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #109

Unnnh....that isn't a "hit piece." That's coverage of a decades - old campaign DEBATE. MADem Sep 2015 #110

The critique of Bernie in that Counterpunch article is basically that he is too close to and too JDPriestly Sep 2015 #77

Do take your objections up with the author of the piece, if it concerns you. MADem Sep 2015 #79

I just happen to agree with Bernie. That's why he is just right on the issues for me. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #91

But the "hit piece" on Clinton that fired up this thread? That's just dandy. Mmm hmmm. nt MADem Sep 2015 #92

His voting record is excellent in my view. JDPriestly Sep 2015 #94

And this is the most ridiculous critique kenfrequed Sep 2015 #100

Bravo! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #101

Oh please--what's absurd is the surfeit of scrutiny of one candidate, MADem Sep 2015 #102

There is no valid point. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #104

No, I'm not. Good effort at deflection, but fail. nt MADem Sep 2015 #105

Do you even read what you write or post? kenfrequed Sep 2015 #106

See, you're showing your bias right there. MADem Sep 2015 #107

Again. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #108

You are the one with the insult bombs, not me. MADem Sep 2015 #116

Cite it. kenfrequed Sep 2015 #121

People reading here do enjoy the gift of literacy. They can read what you write. MADem Sep 2015 #122

So... kenfrequed Sep 2015 #123

*giggle artislife Sep 2015 #112

In one word and one emoticon, you've managed to MADem Sep 2015 #115

Like the exodus isn't going to it's own echo chamber....ha! artislife Sep 2015 #117

This isn't the only pub in town, lad. MADem Sep 2015 #118

Good luck and good bye! artislife Sep 2015 #119

"Neocon" is not the same as "Republican". jeff47 Sep 2015 #17

and Lieberman supports the Iran deal dsc Sep 2015 #23

bzzzt. fail. cali Sep 2015 #33

Author says "very neoconservative". SonderWoman Sep 2015 #27

It is very neoconservative. She's threatening military force. jeff47 Sep 2015 #30

Can you please list... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #40

So you don't understand the vast gulf between threatening force jeff47 Sep 2015 #63

So you got nothing, huh? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #65

No, that would be you who has nothing. jeff47 Sep 2015 #66

Denial seems to be your favored tactic when you ave your nose rubbed in the fact that LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #80

Still waiting..... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #59

this Steve Clemons (if that's his real name) doesn't know what he's talking about. what a rube! nashville_brook Sep 2015 #19

about Steve Clemons, fyi: elleng Sep 2015 #53

Do a search for Steve Clemons so you know who he is....and, KoKo Sep 2015 #21

Has to? No she doesn't. She's not SECSTATE now. Kerry is. MADem Sep 2015 #52

In spite of the implication of her speech, it was Kerry working with the P5+1 who got the interim karynnj Sep 2015 #70

Is there something in the term "groundwork" that stymies people on DU? Does WHAT things? MADem Sep 2015 #81

the point was if you parse her sentence with no detailed information karynnj Sep 2015 #86

Good GAWD, does NO ONE on DU understand how IRAN works? MADem Sep 2015 #87

one question - Who negotiated the interim deal? karynnj Sep 2015 #89

If you "don't question," then give credit where due. Fachrissake, she's the one taking the "heat" MADem Sep 2015 #90

I have given her credit often for endosing the deal early karynnj Sep 2015 #95

Well, she's damned no matter what--you insist she doesn't deserve much credit, the GOP says she MADem Sep 2015 #97

I never said she does not deserve "much" credit, that is your interpretation karynnj Sep 2015 #98

There it is--you're doing it.... MADem Sep 2015 #99

If this were a male secretary of state - in the same position, I would say exactly the same karynnj Sep 2015 #103

Her team is not claiming just "setting the groundwork" --- here's her internet ad from twitter karynnj Sep 2015 #120

She also wants to throw 10 Billion dollars at the failed drug war Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #9

Delete KoKo Sep 2015 #15

yes god forbid we treat addition in this country dsc Sep 2015 #24

Yeah, I haven't had a drink in over 15 years, myself. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #44

I agree with the need for alternatives dsc Sep 2015 #55

There are also doctors who are too afraid of the DEA to manage peoples' pain effectively. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #85

when are people gonna wake up? questionseverything Sep 2015 #111

Treating addiction is the right way. DemocraticWing Sep 2015 #51

Is anyone surprised by this? PowerToThePeople Sep 2015 #12

Chicken clucks, owl hoots, hifiguy Sep 2015 #22

On foreign policy I'd expect nothing else n/t arcane1 Sep 2015 #28

"The real thing going on in the Middle East is the Sunni/Shia civil war elleng Sep 2015 #16

She seems to leave the "Details" of issues to other people.... KoKo Sep 2015 #25

Something like that, elleng Sep 2015 #34

Sanders is my first choice, but o'Malley's sounding great too Scootaloo Sep 2015 #38

Absolute rubbish. I wouldn't allow a neocon to babysit my cats on vacation. Hortensis Sep 2015 #31

Lets not forget that there are five other parties to this Iran agreement tularetom Sep 2015 #39

That picture speaks a million words hifiguy Sep 2015 #49

+100%! Enthusiast Sep 2015 #60

Is this her new campaign "reset"? SoapBox Sep 2015 #41

Well she knows the "left" isn't buying her BS ibegurpard Sep 2015 #43

Some of the so called left here are all aboard the Clinton train! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #68

She could do a prime-time all-network sitdown with Cheney hifiguy Sep 2015 #71

So true. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #72

OK, THAT one made me LOL! hifiguy Sep 2015 #75

Oh, they wouldn't even break a sweat spinning that one LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #83

Hillary says, "It's time America got back to war!" Chelsea first. jalan48 Sep 2015 #47

Or Marc, the hedge fund owner. Divernan Sep 2015 #67

Preposterous tymorial Sep 2015 #56

Please look into Martin O'Malley, tymorial: elleng Sep 2015 #58

+1 hifiguy Sep 2015 #62

She is a chickenhawk neo-con. Ed Suspicious Sep 2015 #57

I was taught that the wolf in sheep's clothing was more to be feared delrem Sep 2015 #76

Nope. AzDar Sep 2015 #73

Meet the new Hillary, same as the old Hillary. CharlotteVale Sep 2015 #74

Like shrub 2.0 HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #82

Hillary. 99Forever Sep 2015 #84

wow. beating the war drums as she sinks in the polls restorefreedom Sep 2015 #93

If I wanted another neocon in the White House, I'd vote for-- wait for it--- John Poet Sep 2015 #114