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Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
34. We do have to consider the voter ID factor in this equation.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jul 2012

I did not say Romney is certainly going to win PA. Chances are if he takes it, this will be do only to fraud on behalf of the GOP.
I am aware the Democratic party and other groups are working to get these people photo id's.

You asked two different questions Marzupialis Jul 2012 #1
I was thinking of Florida and Florida's Squash-the-Vote effort Vogon_Glory Jul 2012 #28
President Obama has a lot of "paths" to victory this time around Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #2
The voter suppression in PA is serious. The GOP is bragging about it, saying it is Romney's key AlinPA Jul 2012 #4
Yeah Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2012 #5
Yes. Obama has most of the swing states in his pocket. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #3
Pennsylvania may be a loss this time around. Dawson Leery Jul 2012 #6
Until I see a poll with Romney leading in PA, I won't ever say it 'may be a loss this time around... Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #13
I agree...stop waving the white flag, people BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #26
Polls don't matter with voter ID. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #29
I'll mark it down... Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #31
Ok, do so. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #33
We do have to consider the voter ID factor in this equation. Dawson Leery Jul 2012 #34
The voter suppression by the GOP is a game changer. It looks bad in PA. AlinPA Jul 2012 #23
I know voter suppression is a key problem. But c'mon... Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #27
More than 700K people in PA are affected. That 500K spread you mention could be washed out. AlinPA Jul 2012 #30
Yup... Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #32
Thank you, you certainly have thought through this more than I have. (I feel better!) AlinPA Jul 2012 #37
One small point to add on the voter suppression..... Sheepshank Jul 2012 #38
Yes. He can win it without Florida, Ohio, Virginia, N. Carolina, or Indiana. RZM Jul 2012 #7
Easily. He can, however, not win without PA. cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #8
Not really demwing Jul 2012 #20
If he doesn't win FL he has to win OH craigmatic Jul 2012 #9
Not necessarily WI_DEM Jul 2012 #11
Yes, he could win Ohio and win or he could lose Ohio and FL and still win by WI_DEM Jul 2012 #10
Are you sure? Maximumnegro Jul 2012 #12
Wrong. Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #15
The map is fine I'm saying Maximumnegro Jul 2012 #16
It doesn't work that way. Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #17
Yes. Clinton won rather easily in '92 without it. Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #14
Mittens shouldn't even run close Thrill Jul 2012 #18
Yes, let me show you: demwing Jul 2012 #19
Yup. Check out two EV maps: jenmito Jul 2012 #21
Interesting. Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #22
Intrade goes back and forth on VA. They DID have it as Dem. and it recently turned to Repub. jenmito Jul 2012 #24
I lost interest in Intrade as a predictor demwing Jul 2012 #40
Yes, I think so. This is a map based on all of the latest polls. AJTheMan Jul 2012 #25
If Obama gets VA, OH and PA, you will be looking at an EC landslide. grantcart Jul 2012 #36
Yes but the more interesting question is can Romney win without it. grantcart Jul 2012 #35
Not coming back? CreekDog Jul 2012 #39
Here's how Obama wins without PA or FL: JaneQPublic Jul 2012 #41
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