2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Critique of HRC From Bernie Supporters Shouldn't Lead to the Phrase 'You Sound Like A Republican!" [View all]Cosmocat
(14,560 posts)First, let me say there are definitely some level headed and decent Bernie supporters here.
Also, I like Bernie A LOT and after being behind Hillary for a long time for this race, turned to supporting and voting for Bernie soon after he announced.
But, while it leaves a lot of his supporters balling around, most discussions here in regard to him are EXACTLY like the brain numbing things I have to deal with republicans on the internet and in the real world.
Same exact stuff.
AND, most of it actually is not related to Hillary.
So, you get people balling about this, you can't call this republican like, that is BEYOND THE PALE! while any kind of statement that is not gestating toward Bernie makes you some kind of super secret, double agent Hillary supporter, which is ... what you get in talking to republicans, anything other than completely being on board with there insanity makes you some kind of deviant.
Intellectual dishonestly abounds. People get into measuring the white house drapes and how bernie is going to sweep all of congress with him and if you note that polling today shows him behind Hillary by a good amount is dismissed immediately, because THE ELECTION IS FAR OFF. Which is what Rs do, dismiss actual data and reality for what they WANT to believe.
All polls are dismissed off hand, until such time as one poll comes out with Bernie that shows him ahead and THAT shows what is really going on - the whole climate change "debate" that 99% of the numbers don't show what people want to believe and are dismissed, one thing that shows what they want to believe is the end all be all.
Nate Silver is a guy who is almost always right and uses data to draw analysis. Because the numbers just are not good for Bernie and he draws his analysis from that, he is a one of the secret Hillary double agents.
You aren't a TRUE LIBERAL if you don't vote for Bernie - you aren't a TRUE AMERICAN if you don't vote republican.
It is rampant and unending, but it is all OK because this and that about Hillary ... The go to republican move ...
And, that is not getting into the railing on republican ginned up BS against Hillary. The e-mail thing is like 1,000 other things republicans have ginned up against not just her, but Bill, Gore, Kerry, Dean, BHO ... Just complete bullshit narrative to slog up the political waters and public opinion.
There are a LOT of people like me, who like Bernie and who are going to vote for him who don't see Hillary as some kind of evil creature that is all that is wrong with the world (again, a republican thing). There are a LOT of people who like Hillary and are not coming over to Bernie because of this stuff, and his margin is such that is a problem for him.