2016 Postmortem

Ken Burch

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178. What the hell would you call it, then?

Reply to Fred Sanders (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 04:18 AM

Aug 2015

It's not as though the CU decision means that it's ok for Democrats to take any big checks they can get.

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Latino group demands Hillary Clinton and DNC cut ties with private prison industry [View all] azmom Aug 2015 OP

I know she isn't Bill Clinton. But, changes under his administration exploded prison population mucifer Aug 2015 #1

And I feel sad some folks still think Clinton is taking "private prison money". Tunnel vision is a Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #9

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!!!!" nt Romulox Aug 2015 #12

The real issue being ignored in the rush to demonize is: what is that curtain and why is it there? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #13

the real issue in this thread cali Aug 2015 #16

I use funny accents when I read his posts, it helps. nt artislife Aug 2015 #41

lol -- great idea -- thank you, artislife! senz Aug 2015 #71

That's a good idea, I just read his posts because they are so funny, accents would help. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2015 #141

This message was self-deleted by its author Amimnoch Aug 2015 #160

And there it is again ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #42

Yawn. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #49

there what is? do tell. cali Aug 2015 #69

she damn well is. cali Aug 2015 #14

She should own this and return the money. GitRDun Aug 2015 #30

+ 1 senz Aug 2015 #73

Her relationships with some industries is a core REASON FOR of her candidacy. Vincardog Aug 2015 #82

OK...the Manchurian Candidate GitRDun Aug 2015 #116

Odd Android3.14 Aug 2015 #122

I believe Vincardog was inferring she was a Manchurian candidate GitRDun Aug 2015 #123

I think that is understood, but I've swung and missed before Android3.14 Aug 2015 #125

Got ya! I won't go there, but that's ok GitRDun Aug 2015 #135

Disgusting. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #51

6 degrees of separation game again? MaggieD Aug 2015 #92

Yup, that's exactly what's going on. Thanks for the reality check. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #94

You know, if HRC supporters were posting.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #101

Yes she should turn down money from folks associated with certain industries AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #184

Some folks live in a puretopian dream world MaggieD Aug 2015 #188

There are thousands of firms NOT profiting from human misery AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #189

What this says is that a lobbying firm who is involved with her campaign has other clients, pnwmom Aug 2015 #93

There's no excuse for even taking money from a firm that has money like that. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #179

That's ridiculous. They hired a law firm to do bundling of campaign contributions. pnwmom Aug 2015 #180

Who cares if they eat babies? AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #186

Maybe some of your doctor's other patients do. You'll never know. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #191

So what if they lobby for human misery! AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #185

I don't think you know what a lobbyist is. pnwmom Aug 2015 #97

It speaks to their character AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #187

Thank you! 840high Aug 2015 #124

it's sickening when people deny facts. cali Aug 2015 #22

Bernie is not taking private prison money. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #34

Let us assume a candidate is offered 10 million dollars by one person, money bundled from a hundred different donors. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #63

OK. On the right, we have a candidate, Hillary Clinton, who accepts donations JDPriestly Aug 2015 #153

And this is going to be the #1 issue of this campaign, getting this corrupt money out of sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #168

Sanders voluntarily surrendered the CU wasteland and neither Clinton or Obama did. Their choice. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #169

Where is your evidence that Hillary is? pnwmom Aug 2015 #102

Here you go. JDPriestly Aug 2015 #150

"There is a small possibility" is an opinion of that author, backed up by nothing. pnwmom Aug 2015 #151

Unfortunately, with Hillary Clinton's record on accepting, seeking corporate JDPriestly Aug 2015 #152

No, we don't "have to assume" anything. That's what you choose to do, as a Bernie-backer. pnwmom Aug 2015 #181

It is sad ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #45

Not "reasons" but "ethics" Android3.14 Aug 2015 #59

Her Husband And Bush Sr billhicks76 Aug 2015 #84

All she has to do to clear this up is to say that she has never, nor will ever take money rhett o rick Aug 2015 #86

In fairness, given how specific a statement that is, both should say it. Lancero Aug 2015 #107

I agree completely. I believe the AA community recognizes that the war on drugs, and the increase rhett o rick Aug 2015 #137

And your guy is still losing Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #147

Yes, gloat with the billionaires until the day he wins. The 99% will kick the asses of your 1% rhett o rick Aug 2015 #149

Funny how I am not a Democrat Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #161

I am glad you brought that up. I worship principles and ideals not labels. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #171

Anyone can label themselves a Democrat Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #172

Maybe I got it wrong, but seems to me that those people that only look rhett o rick Aug 2015 #173

We have to move past that vote Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #174

"We have to move past that vote." The most important decision in a century. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #175

You lose me.. Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #176

Our country is crashing around us and you pretend that everything is swell. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #183

Bullshit..this country is not crashing Tommy2Tone Aug 2015 #192

Yes, its a great day that the Oligarchs can continue their reign Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #159

Our 'guy' has called for the banning of the obscene practice of privatizing prisons. No one 'guy' sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #167

Snicker, Here is someone who will not pay attention to the man behind the curtain. Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #158

What the hell would you call it, then? Ken Burch Aug 2015 #178

Since you ask so nicely, I will oblige: Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #182

I'm sure his apology is just more bs for those harmed and it's roguevalley Aug 2015 #15

Like I said....tunnel vision...all things seen through one lens. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #24

Yeahhhhh... about that tunnel vision, Fred.. frylock Aug 2015 #27

don't bother. some people are pretty brazen about ignoring facts and rewriting reality cali Aug 2015 #32

The fact that they continue to do so in the same thread really helps to highlight.. frylock Aug 2015 #36

Some people certainly are nt ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #47

Yawn. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #53

I'm presenting facts. anyone denying that Hillary takes bundled money from cali Aug 2015 #67

They know. They just don't give a shit. hifiguy Aug 2015 #112

Biden drove that legislation, unfortunately MaggieD Aug 2015 #89

An "apology" 20 years later don't feed the bulldog. hifiguy Aug 2015 #109

Lack of respect or understanding of historical context makes people believe and say strange things. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #115

money=access. access=influence. access+influence=corruption cali Aug 2015 #2

Do you have any links to HRC accepting donations from them? MaggieD Aug 2015 #96

yes. And it's posted in this thread. cali Aug 2015 #104

It's another fake issue MaggieD Aug 2015 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Android3.14 Aug 2015 #126

Tell that to Latinos AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #190

Yes, there is absolutely NO excuse in a society such as ours to even have PatrickforO Aug 2015 #3

Exactly tecelote Aug 2015 #18

There was a Repub. Congressman who promoted prison labor as a way to bring jobs back to the US virtualobserver Aug 2015 #77

Agree. ananda Aug 2015 #21

You can buy publicly traded stock in 2 of these companies MBplayer Aug 2015 #23

That's sad. ananda Aug 2015 #55

It really is. And because prisoners are not protected by the laws against slavery, it may be JDPriestly Aug 2015 #37

"It is an offense against morality." artislife Aug 2015 #43

Our rights are guaranteed by the state ("of, for, and by the people") KansDem Aug 2015 #58

Private prisons are a crime against humanity and maybe some day the country will also evolve Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #75

Bernie Sanders has called for the abolishment of Private Prisons. Another reason why sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #166

Here is the link to the actual letter azmom Aug 2015 #4

How much donation money? She could mark that money to hire ex prisoners for campaign work. Sunlei Aug 2015 #5

here rpannier Aug 2015 #29

Idaho booted out the Corrections Corporation of America. Freakin' Idaho! If our guys could wise brewens Aug 2015 #6

No, no no no. We can't actually push for changes! jeff47 Aug 2015 #7

Yeah, Nazi, white supremacist Idafuckingho! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #40

How about a constitutional amendment banning private prisons? Lucky Luciano Aug 2015 #8

Good idea. Another would be repealing the 2nd and a new one banning guns for private civilians without just cause shown. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #17

Maybe you'd like to discuss the problem Bradical79 Aug 2015 #26

He's in denial that it is happening.. frylock Aug 2015 #28

He is not "in denial". He is "denying". And hoping repetition and scorn will mask reality. nt djean111 Aug 2015 #60

The Nile can be dangerous. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #62

I used Mr. Magoo for that one. artislife Aug 2015 #46

We could freeze private prison construction, for starters MBplayer Aug 2015 #20

More light on what happens when we allow corporations to fund our political campaigns AllyCat Aug 2015 #10

Hillary has a Private Prison Money problem. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #11

Do you have any links to HRC accepting donations from them? MaggieD Aug 2015 #98

@ anacodainfl Aug 2015 #99

He is a lobbyist for many, many companies MaggieD Aug 2015 #100

Thank you for posting MBplayer Aug 2015 #19

Very glad they have spoken up about this issue. logosoco Aug 2015 #25

What would you do about a person who is convicted of shoplifting three times or more? JDPriestly Aug 2015 #38

counseling would be good (although some people are logosoco Aug 2015 #72

Prisons are racist institutions, private prisons even more so. n/t demmiblue Aug 2015 #31

+100000000000 azmom Aug 2015 #68

And this is the person BLM wants to get behind for POTUS? d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #33

Do you have any links to HRC accepting donations from them? MaggieD Aug 2015 #91

Here: d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #165

The private prison industry needs to be wiped off the face of the earth Jack Rabbit Aug 2015 #35

Well, obviously you cannot say you oppose something while taking their money. Same thing with sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #39

It is so blatant. artislife Aug 2015 #48

+1000~! n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #54

Great idea, but why would a center right Third Way candidate like Hillary do that? Zorra Aug 2015 #44

Oh but haven't you heard. Bill has expediently apologized just in time for Hillary lol n/t Catherina Aug 2015 #57

Awww, that's so sweet! And absolutely no reason whatsoever to trust either Clinton. nt Zorra Aug 2015 #61

"I feel your pain" lol Catherina Aug 2015 #74

Wonderful post, Zorra! hifiguy Aug 2015 #113

Latinos are aware and care about the issues azmom Aug 2015 #142

Hey Sanders - FairWinds Aug 2015 #50

Google gives me this: Maedhros Aug 2015 #66

Here's the link: dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #154

I read it as Bernie. My bad. [n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #157

link? frylock Aug 2015 #81

I think I know who is REALLY a shill...[n/t] Maedhros Aug 2015 #138

You just made that up didn't you? Google search jtuck004 Aug 2015 #87

Still nothing five hours later? Maedhros Aug 2015 #140

& off we go! "A few choice words about Clinton’s ties to mass incarceration & the Black base starts Catherina Aug 2015 #52

Bravo! Great post! nikto Aug 2015 #111

...+1 840high Aug 2015 #128

Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #56

Although I oppose private prisons whole-heartedly, 'we demand' raises my hackles. Shrike47 Aug 2015 #64

Post on your facebook. There is a petition azmom Aug 2015 #65

Do you have any links to HRC accepting donations from them? MaggieD Aug 2015 #95

She provided this info to the FEC azmom Aug 2015 #103

Don't see any for profit prisons on there MaggieD Aug 2015 #106

No way...she's on their payroll. Wake up. libdem4life Aug 2015 #136

Did a web search: it's all over the internet -- liberal sites, particularly senz Aug 2015 #70

All well-resepected sources at DU. hifiguy Aug 2015 #114

What should Hillary do, drop a missile on lobbyist's houses? Tell lobbyists stop bundling election money? Free country, last I heard. Or maybe she Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #117

um... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #121

Ahhhhh..... Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #129

So your saying ... TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #144

I should have just responded with "Ahhhhh" and left it at that ...which was my first choice.... Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #145

We do understand it dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #156

+1 azmom Aug 2015 #164

Her line is always that the laws didn't work in their favor, Jennifer Kay Aug 2015 #76

Good for presente mikehiggins Aug 2015 #78

AMEN!!! uponit7771 Aug 2015 #79

Here is the racket: azmom Aug 2015 #80

Thank you for that information. Maedhros Aug 2015 #139

If anything should be outlawed, it should be the for profit prison industry. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #83

Agree and add to that for profit health care marlakay Aug 2015 #85

Maybe you can keep the fees for the $200,000 a page speeches from your friends at Goldman $ach$ jtuck004 Aug 2015 #88

Do you have any links to HRC accepting donations from them? MaggieD Aug 2015 #90

Daily Kos, Common Dreams, and Americablog can tell you about it. senz Aug 2015 #118

And again, that person lobbies for lots of orgs MaggieD Aug 2015 #120

Taking their money so as to get elected, then the administration can reign them in Babel_17 Aug 2015 #108

This is a slam-dunk, and Hillary has no defense here, except to give up those donations nikto Aug 2015 #110

Scott Walker is a big fan of privatization -- Why is Hillary in bed with this industry! Wisc Progressive Aug 2015 #119

She is not "in bed" with this industry MaggieD Aug 2015 #132

Comparing lobbyists to law firms is fucked up Android3.14 Aug 2015 #127

Is that why unions, and Latino groups..... MaggieD Aug 2015 #130

As President, Martin O'Malley will elleng Aug 2015 #131

Didn't he contract with them as governor? MaggieD Aug 2015 #133

Dunno, elleng Aug 2015 #134

Ssssh, African Americans are reading this too! daybranch Aug 2015 #143

Hear, hear! Stellar Aug 2015 #146

K & R SoapBox Aug 2015 #148

Meanwhile, Sanders will attempt to defund them jfern Aug 2015 #155

Good on this group. This must stop. Autumn Aug 2015 #162

I agree with it Bethany Rockafella Aug 2015 #163

Typical of Clinton, she wants to argue the definition of "lobbyist", "bundler". nt Romulox Aug 2015 #170

There is no excuse for any Democratic politician to take money from the private prison industry. Ken Burch Aug 2015 #177