2016 Postmortem

delrem

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20. Because to do so is dishonest.

Tue Aug 18, 2015, 04:51 AM

Aug 2015

The Clinton family and the Obama family are very different, with entirely different histories and on different trajectories. Obama isn't saddled with the Clinton family past, or the "scandals" and "looks askance at's" that face Hillary Rodham Clinton in this election cycle. There is no "scandal" attaching to Pres. Obama that is in any way similar to the kind of scandals that the Clintons have brought upon themselves.

You're engaged in an exercise of dissembling, to suggest otherwise - and that's why you shouldn't do it. It's OK to try to ride on Pres. Obama's shoulders, but it isn't OK to try to bring him down to your level to do it.

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O’Malley: Clinton email server questions 'legitimate' [View all] Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 OP

O’Malley argued that Sanders’s populism will not help him win their party’s coronation next election elleng Aug 2015 #1

Way to change the subject Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #2

I promote O'Malley, I do not attack Sanders. elleng Aug 2015 #4

OK. I don't agree with O'Malley's spin. delrem Aug 2015 #8

We are all/both angry elleng Aug 2015 #9

I see a unity of purpose. Not anger. I see determination. delrem Aug 2015 #12

Yes but also frustration with the status quo. elleng Aug 2015 #47

Um, some of us are "angrily opposed to Clinton" tularetom Aug 2015 #29

Yes, some are. elleng Aug 2015 #50

Slate: State Department Suddenly Finds 18,000 Clinton-Era Emails It Had Said It Didn't Have Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #13

Like the Federal Records Act, FOIA is another toothless law she intentionally avoided with a private leveymg Aug 2015 #26

He is doing a great job of representing the people, iow. That is what a candidate is supposed to do. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #32

That doesn't respond to the OP. nt delrem Aug 2015 #5

Filling in some 'blanks' about Governor O'Malley, elleng Aug 2015 #6

I nominate some of his treads on GDP Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #16

Same goes for many of us. leveymg Aug 2015 #27

Anger and fear are how almost every national Republican in national office today won their job. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #23

There is something to that elleng Aug 2015 #48

“No great nation ever built its foundation on anger,” catnhatnh Aug 2015 #25

I'm kind of splitting hairs here, cat, but was it ANGER, elleng Aug 2015 #49

Third way does not like populism HFRN Aug 2015 #53

Yah, well, I suppose SO. delrem Aug 2015 #3

yawwwwwnnnnnn ericson00 Aug 2015 #7

Goodnight. elleng Aug 2015 #10

Martin O'Not-saddled-with-Hillary's-scandalous past/baggage. delrem Aug 2015 #14

Clinton's past has "baggage" like Obama's past has "baggage:" as in ericson00 Aug 2015 #17

No. You can't equate Hillary's past with Barack's. delrem Aug 2015 #18

Why can't I? ericson00 Aug 2015 #19

Because to do so is dishonest. delrem Aug 2015 #20

You're gonna give real examples of baggage ericson00 Aug 2015 #21

I really don't know what you're on about. delrem Aug 2015 #22

good point. if not for the rw hate, what would the baggage even be for clinton. bill, ya. hillary seabeyond Aug 2015 #38

My problem with Clinton isn't scandal, it's policy. She's a warmonger. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #55

i do not see her as a warmonger. sanders too voted on military action. seabeyond Aug 2015 #67

Whitewater was the watered-down version of BCCI. Filegate was her BCCI billing records she withheld leveymg Aug 2015 #28

Bummer. I am for omalley but bummer he went there. Nt seabeyond Aug 2015 #11

You are not "for omalley". You are for Hillary Rodham Clinton. delrem Aug 2015 #15

i am so damn tired of certain people telling others who they are rooting for..... just foolish seabeyond Aug 2015 #35

seabeyond — Raine1967 Aug 2015 #33

thanks. it was late, on the way to bed and on the iphone. twice. twice.... seabeyond Aug 2015 #36

You are very welcome, Seabeyond. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #39

I'm sure that you have a legitimate question to ask, seabeyond Aug 2015 #37

Yup, it changes the context altogether. eom Raine1967 Aug 2015 #40

YES! elleng Aug 2015 #54

i also like how omalley started when the guy said he wanted to talk about clinton emails seabeyond Aug 2015 #42

Sure did! elleng Aug 2015 #62

Thank you ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #63

It looks like O Malley is ruining his chance to be VP NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #24

That is all to his credit, assuming HRC gets the nom. He just went up another notch. leveymg Aug 2015 #31

You can't ruin a chance you never had! tritsofme Aug 2015 #34

How lovely that that's how we decide who is best suited for an office. Jester Messiah Aug 2015 #51

O'Malley would bring youth and maybe Pennsylvania Catholics NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #66

Problem is, those links are misrepresenting what was said. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #56

He is right, email server questions are very legitimate. The problem I see interspersed with those still_one Aug 2015 #30

This entire thread acts like O'Malley has attacked HRC. On every show (MSNBC or not) that O'Malley FSogol Aug 2015 #41

the article and hte op created to make it look like something it wasnt. need the video to see seabeyond Aug 2015 #44

YES! elleng Aug 2015 #52

It's really disheartening to be honest. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #57

Of course it's legitimate. And he needs to start taking swings. This is how it works. TwilightGardener Aug 2015 #43

Finally! A leader in our party admits to this. Distraction? RW hit? RiverLover Aug 2015 #45

except he did not play the rw hit game you think he did. and i say... good for omalley. seabeyond Aug 2015 #46

And good for seab!!! elleng Aug 2015 #61

YOur OP is misleading. Here is a headline: Voters Don’t Want to Hear About Hillary Clinton’s Emails Raine1967 Aug 2015 #58

NO ......... he said that on Sunday's meet the press Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #59

O'Malley is not really concerned about the email story. Raine1967 Aug 2015 #64

I didn't say he didn't or did answer the question just fine Ichingcarpenter Aug 2015 #65

'And shame on us as a Democratic Party if we don’t step forward and start offering elleng Aug 2015 #60

K&R! Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #68