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cascadiance

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45. How do you know we are following him with "blind allegiance"...
Wed Aug 12, 2015, 04:44 AM
Aug 2015

Following a CORPORATE owned candidate that does most of her stops soliciting $2.7k donations at private parties in my book is more "blind allegiance".

Symone's hiring & the announcement of his reform plan was after Seattle. Hillary's team is still more diverse.


NO! She had already been hired before that incident. It can be argued that it was a response to what happened at NetRoots, but was clearly not a response to what happened in Seattle, when she was already announced as the new chair on Saturday then. And please explain why Hillary's team is "more diverse"...

I think it was BLM (or those individuals in question who are questionably claiming to represent most of BLM's views) that was the one that was telling him that he "was behind".... If BLM wants help with their cause, I'm sorry but it IS as much their job to reach out to those in our government, as it is government to reach out to them. If they don't try, or just basically attack those in government instead of trying to work with them initially, then how do they expect people to respond? They really have failed the art of persuasion, when going after Bernie, as he has shown in his history to always be a good ally for people of color in the past.

Hillary lead a lot of demographics when Obama was running at this stage too. Why? A thing called "name recognition". They don't hate Bernie for still unexplained reasons that these individuals seem to, I guess because he looks too old and white, or perhaps because he's Jewish? Still trying to understand why they like him so much less than other Republicans or Democrats. They need to be more specific on what are their problems with him if they don't want to be taken as having some form of reverse racism or the like being their motivation. It still seems odd why Marisa would have some photos showing her identifying with Sarah Palin, but going after Bernie. That shows a warped set of priorities for me if she really wants to help POC with getting more friends working for them in Washington.

I think Bernie has had a lot lengthier career in being a politician than Hillary has, even if Hillary has had a big chunk of it in the White House as a first lady.

I think Bernie is doing just fine in the "people" constituencies, which is what a democratic system of government should be about in terms of who should be the power to decide who gets elected. I think it would be pretty tough for Hillary to match the sheer numbers of people attending her events that Bernie has had. I'm guessing she's avoiding those now, because she will suffer from the perception that she doesn't get near the same amount of following that he does if people measure turnout for events should she try them instead of just doing private fundraisers.

The people are wanting a big change now, and don't like politicians as much who are just playing the power games of raising money without really meeting the people much on the campaign trail. They are getting VERY tired of big money politics now, and want something different. Bernie represents that change that many of them want now. That is going to be just more and more visible in this campaign as time goes on, and the numbers are going to even out, like in New Hampshire, where Bernie has surged ahead now.
Another ridiculous assertion by a Sanders supporter GitRDun Aug 2015 #1
What legislation have the bigmouths leading BLM suggested? BillZBubb Aug 2015 #4
No sane person thinks those kids did the right thing. GitRDun Aug 2015 #11
Again with the "kids" bullshit. BillZBubb Aug 2015 #14
Your response represents exactly what needs to be fixed at DU & Bernie 2016 GitRDun Aug 2015 #17
Alert Results irisblue Aug 2015 #18
Looking to me like BLM doesn't want to be reached out to... sibelian Aug 2015 #22
That may be true of some at BLM GitRDun Aug 2015 #23
I would certainly hope so. sibelian Aug 2015 #24
Really. Do you know Black Lives Matter activists? Have you ever participated in a BLM action? Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #32
... nah. sibelian Aug 2015 #47
Why don't you repeat that statement to Symone Sanders. She'd love to respond to these INSULTS! cascadiance Aug 2015 #33
Any criticism is a smear, I know, oops I mean spitting in his face as you say GitRDun Aug 2015 #39
How do you know we are following him with "blind allegiance"... cascadiance Aug 2015 #45
Easy answer GitRDun Aug 2015 #59
If calling people "white supremacist" with absolutely NO BASIS is "criticism"... cascadiance Aug 2015 #60
Here's just a smatter from your reply GitRDun Aug 2015 #62
Physician- heal thyself notadmblnd Aug 2015 #6
real wounds are still to come Supersedeas Aug 2015 #63
it's getting hard to support BLM because TheFarseer Aug 2015 #10
Yes, if they are going to continue to say that we can never understand... cascadiance Aug 2015 #31
Ignoring the two actions that targeted Sanders, quick… tell me what you have done Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #34
What have I done? I helped on a committee at the county level put forth a resolution... cascadiance Aug 2015 #37
Bingo Supersedeas Aug 2015 #25
Yes a natural ally Armstead Aug 2015 #56
Ah- where are you links to this very disturbing stuff and their leadership? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #2
There's a thread claiming BLM is a Secret Plot by "Black Lesbians" to perpetuate racism emulatorloo Aug 2015 #9
It's best not to try to engage. You could be barred. Happened to me today Freelancer Aug 2015 #3
Absolutely. He is already being diminished by caving in to them. Peregrine Took Aug 2015 #5
really? What should he have done? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #8
He should have had security so NO ONE could have gotten onto the stage BillZBubb Aug 2015 #15
Maybe he doesn't have the money for security as of yet? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #16
Wasn't his event. He was an invited guest to speak for a few minutes. He didn't seem put out. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #35
Yay for you! You have just parroted what I have been reading on near every hate Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #28
BLM is not a monolithic organization. It's not at all clear that the female winter is coming Aug 2015 #7
Then they need to reorganize. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #12
Not according to Bernie. LWolf Aug 2015 #13
Indeed. People like the OP need to find another candidate. Trump, perhaps? Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #30
Let it go artislife Aug 2015 #19
+1 think Aug 2015 #20
After 24 hours of all this, I still support the goals of#BLM but not always their tactics or targets aikoaiko Aug 2015 #21
Go away. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #26
You do not deserve to be a Bernie Sanders supporter. He would NEVER EVER suggest that BLM Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #27
OK, this is seriously creepy. (nt) stone space Aug 2015 #29
Do you enjoy lecturing black people from your perch? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #36
BLM is not about a candidate ibegurpard Aug 2015 #38
It's a hashtag movement. Of course it will go away fbc Aug 2015 #40
It will go on as long as we keep seeing high profile killings of unarmed black people Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #41
Without leaders, anyone is #BLM, and that will lead to more incidents like the other day. fbc Aug 2015 #42
Yet #BLM interrupts Bernie Sanders in Seattle, what happens after that incident? Cali_Democrat Aug 2015 #43
They won with Sanders, and lost with a lot of other people fbc Aug 2015 #57
You do Realize that Sanders Press Sec is a Supporter of BLM JI7 Aug 2015 #44
That is a time honored tradition when it comes to POC. NCTraveler Aug 2015 #46
Yes, exactly. lovemydog Aug 2015 #64
I disagree. cali Aug 2015 #48
so anonymous poster demands BLM 'go away' bigtree Aug 2015 #49
FFS azurnoir Aug 2015 #50
No. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #51
No. Black Lives Matter is important. It is the supporters of other candidates who are djean111 Aug 2015 #52
As a black person, I don't wholly disagree. They seem rather unprofessional and short-sighted..... tjdee Aug 2015 #53
"Let's You and Him Fight." klook Aug 2015 #54
Sorry , but I have to disagree TheFarS1de Aug 2015 #55
you are going about this all wrong Sheepshank Aug 2015 #58
Totally disagree. BLM is necessary to stop the killing. I am not found of their method of protesting jwirr Aug 2015 #61
This thread wasn't alerted? daredtowork Aug 2015 #65
I'm not going to write off the movement jfern Aug 2015 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author Agschmid Dec 2015 #67
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