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sabrina 1

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Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:50 PM Aug 2015

"You don't have the standing to invent a 'race problem' for Bernie" Warning: NSFW [View all]

You Don't Have the Standing to Invent a 'Race Problem' for Bernie

Some background on this Daily Kos diarist and this post.

OPOL (One Pissed Off Liberal) is a longtime Liberal member of DK who survived many of the purges of Liberals on that site, due to his huge popularity BECAUSE of his lifelong support of ISSUES that are basic to most Democrats.

He is, iow, one of the most popular Diarists on DK and has been for many years.

THIS OP is a response to an all out attack by the owner of the blog, on Liberals, very common there btw, AND on Bernie Sanders and his supporters. It contained the usual Third Way despicable talking points never aimed at the Right, but ALWAYS at the Left.

This is OPOL's justifiably angry response to that Third Way diatribe.

And as always with OPOL's Diaries, it received the online equivalent of a standing ovation. He and a few other Liberal survivors on the blog, are one of the only reasons to even read that blog anymore.

And now, back to the diary:

No one does. No lying politician. No dishonest hack. No bloggers and no owners of blogs.

How disgusting is it to see all these supposed progressives using racial strife to divide people and win points for their side? They should all be ashamed of themselves. As I said before, racism is too important of a problem to be used as a game piece. It's the ugliest and lowest possible tactic – and if you genuinely care about this most serious issue of racism in America, you should take notice of who is using it for cheap political advantage.

No one who really cares about fighting racism would dare stoop so low.

Bernie's been passionately fighting racism and injustice in America for fifty fucking years. His record is plain as day and rock solid. No one can take that away from him.

This video from the night before the Black Lives Matter protest at Netroots Nation, as well as his fifty-year record of fighting passionately for racial justice and equality, shows what a bunch of liars these people who claim 'Bernie's got a problem with race' really are:


You don't have the standing to invent a gay rights problem for him either. Bernie's been a passionate supporter of gay rights for over forty years. He was way out ahead of damned near everybody on that issue – and still is.

The following is about a letter he wrote 40 years ago (available for your viewing pleasure here):

Notice that not only did Sanders call for gay equality and an end to the drug war, he also talked about the need to tax corporations, end unjust overseas wars, heal the environment, and empower working people. If nothing else, Sanders has been extremely consistent.

Think about that. Bernie stood up to a homophobic nation when almost no one else would. HRC's record is pathetic compared to that. She's only recently been dragged into supporting gay marriage. Yet her supporters want to attack Bernie on this issue. It just shows they've got nothing. They're just making shit up.
'Full gay rights' is unambiguous.

They sure don't want to go comparing Bernie's record to Hillary's. They'll never win that way. And they sure as fuck don't want to compare donor lists. Because that right there would tell the ugly truth about their Wall Street candidate.

Here he appears to be quoting kos:

"The reasons to be skeptical of Hillary Clinton are legion." ~ kos

"The reasons to be skeptical of Bernie are few." ~ OPOL

Speaking directly to kos and to all those who have engaged in this smear campaign:

Stop telling all these fucked up lies. It just shows how little you've got to fight with and how little you are restrained by ethical considerations or any sense of fairness. If you don't mind cheating to win, you don't deserve to.

There are very many damned good reasons why Bernie is so widely regarded as a progressive icon, a liberal firebrand and a fierce activist. He fucking earned it. Any dishonest asshole who tries to take that away from him is...well, a dishonest asshole.

And Bernie earned his reputation the hard way – on the streets with flesh and shoe leather, where you never would have found virtually any of his detractors. Deceitful people who lack the courage of their convictions do not take to the streets to fight for justice. Only brave people do that. It takes guts to put yourself on the line for your beliefs. And no one who lacks the vision and commitment to ever leave their own comfort zone while spreading scurrilous empty-headed lies about real heroes can change that reality. Bernie's integrity is unassailable.

Bernie Sanders is:

The one candidate not drunk on wealth and power.
The one candidate not irrevocably tied to the 1%.
The one candidate not beholden to Wall Street and corporate America.
The one candidate not tied to the Military Industrial Complex.
The one candidate who marched with Dr. King.
The one candidate who worked to elect Jesse Jackson president.
The one candidate with a solid record of fighting racism and inequality.
The one candidate who voted against the invasion of Iraq.
The one candidate who voted against the the first Gulf war.
The one candidate who voted against NAFTA and CAFTA.
The one candidate who voted against the USA Patriot Act.
The one candidate who wants to overturn Citizens United.
The one candidate who wants to rein in the NSA.
The one candidate who fights for the working class.
The one candidate with the guts to stand up to the 1%.
The one candidate who never sold us out.
The one candidate who never lied to us.
The only candidate who deserves our support.

That won't stop all the dishonest assholes with hidden agendas and nary an ounce of integrity from trying to shit on Bernie's head. He's the only candidate on either side with an ounce of integrity or the guts to stand up against the powers that be. The only one. When you shit on the one guy with any fucking integrity at all, you are committing a grave offense.

And HRC sure as hell does not want to debate Bernie. Her side knows he'll wipe the floor with her. DWS and the DNC should be ashamed for their stalling tactics. They need to do the right thing and schedule the debates. They cannot skip straight to the coronation of Ms. Inevitability. They've got to go through Bernie, and Bernie's going to kick their ass.

Bring on the debates!

So support who you like, vote for who you want, promote your candidate any way you see fit, but those who stoop to sliming Bernie with underhanded lies deserve to be called out for it.

Apparently, deceitful backdoor attacks on Bernie are all the rage at Daily Kos: damning with faint praise, expressing 'loving' concern, claiming to be a Bernie supporter while shaming Bernie supporters, making up stories about how he can't possibly win and just outright lying. Not surprising I guess, since it's all they've got. I'm just astonished and appalled at the depths to which some people are stooping. It speaks of panicked desperation. Good. That's exactly what they and their 1% Wall Street candidate deserve.

Unless you are an enthusiastic supporter of the status quo, unless you're pining for a big stinking pile of more of the same, you should step up and vote for the political revolution you've been crying for, praying for and waiting for all these years.

Yes, Liberals are sick and tired of being ATTACKED and SMEARED by their own party.

They ARE ANGRY and the more their own party represented by the Third Way continues to use these tactics AGAINST DEMOCRATS, instead of Republicans, the more that anger is going to build.

We saw the Third Way Founders go after Elizabeth Warren also.

Every time the Left of the party, which of course IS the party, find a great representative like Elizabeth Warren and Sanders among others, you can be sure to see the attacks from the Third Way and the lies and ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

Sick of the hypocrisy, sick of the smear campaigns and talking points and SICK of the cynical use of important issues as political footballs during campaigns ONLY TO BE FORGOTTEN once the campaigns are over.

And OPOL speaks for the Left whose votes are needed by the very people who are responsible for these attacks, should their candidate win. The continued campaign against the Left within this party will ensure a Republican win if it does not stop.

Thank you OPOL for expressing the anger these smear campaigns are engendering within this party so passionately, as always.

Anyone who uses the race card who was not engaged over the decades in the serious issues facing AAs for DECADES in this country has no credibility. Talking points don't die, no matter how clearly an issue is resolved, that's how you know they are expensive talking points.

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Thanks for posting this. I haven't been to dailykos on a regular basis in years. n/t winter is coming Aug 2015 #1
No problem, I go there to look for the remaining Liberals, like OPOL, as sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #2
I am an FDR dem ... radical leftie all my life. This guy speaks for me. GO, BERNIE! roguevalley Aug 2015 #70
read the comments there. Kos is getting his sorry ass handed to him. roguevalley Aug 2015 #73
I should go look for kos's anti-liberal/bernie diatribe but to be honest sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #81
Well, that one didn't go over well at all Mnpaul Aug 2015 #153
Wow, thank you, great to see people standing up to these Third Wayers so firmly. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #191
"What on EARTH is wrong with our party?" staggerleem Aug 2015 #203
no doubt, eh? azureblue Aug 2015 #79
Please read before you post. Kos is responsible for what HE WRITES. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #115
+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #185
Same thing with the NYTimes. senz Aug 2015 #106
Unbelievable, isn't it? They are all on the same page. But the PEOPLE sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #162
+100%! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #186
Do they know Bernie even got arrested for protesting for civil rights? Rosa Luxemburg Aug 2015 #143
If they know, they don't care. winter is coming Aug 2015 #144
Funny how that line of attack blunts his strengths. Qutzupalotl Aug 2015 #189
Yes, and once they were told of his incredible record, their response was sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #160
DK has some very bad trolls deeply embedded laserhaas Aug 2015 #176
k&r nt magical thyme Aug 2015 #3
Wow sabrina1..OPAL is powerful and has a dead eye.. haikugal Aug 2015 #4
Yes, he is an amazing poster. I've been longtime reader of his work. Very interesting sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #6
That sounds familiar... haikugal Aug 2015 #17
Wow. What a great piece! Thanks for posting it here. kath Aug 2015 #5
You can search for a member's page, and it's worth doing so re OPAL as his work sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #7
Here is OPAL'S profile page sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #12
Look who recc'ed OPOL'S post Mnpaul Aug 2015 #107
I'm one. snort Aug 2015 #118
Can't think of anything more that needs to be added to that one except K&R. Zorra Aug 2015 #8
No problem, Zorra, OPOL has a way of slamming down the facts sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #18
What makes people like that great is they don't give up. zeemike Aug 2015 #50
You would love him, he took so much flack on that site, but prevailed because sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #57
K & R. Way cool guy & amazing post, thanks. Pls. link the Kos piece that generated this appalachiablue Aug 2015 #114
Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I will look for it, someone near the top of the thread has sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #198
claiming to be a Bernie supporter while shaming Bernie supporters FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #9
... Zorra Aug 2015 #11
Lol, well, at least it's good to see a few people who never even sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #14
Thanks for linking that asset to this forum. It was a very good post FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #24
Indeed. arcane1 Aug 2015 #32
:) nt abelenkpe Aug 2015 #53
Hah (nt) malokvale77 Aug 2015 #105
You are soooo bad! dgibby Aug 2015 #113
:) FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #119
Lol, just read that again. You are so right! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #158
it doesn't have to make white sense Supersedeas Aug 2015 #209
Well this speaks to me. ibegurpard Aug 2015 #10
+1 Agschmid Aug 2015 #13
And the effort spent to find, and promote, voices of PoC, holding ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #48
And what will be your explanation ibegurpard Aug 2015 #58
As a member of the African-American community ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #63
Well I have and I also move in a wide circle which includes people sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #112
Check this out. senz Aug 2015 #128
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #134
Hmm. Maybe if you were one you would... senz Aug 2015 #136
One what? 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #151
Exactly what you said ... senz Aug 2015 #164
True ... Some people tend to hang with like minded-people ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #181
That's very strange. As I said, unless they haven't heard of him yet, I haven't met sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #188
LOL ... Always the conspiracy, huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #190
I wasn't talking about Black People. I was talking the Right Wing fundies sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #194
Okay ... LOL; but, Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #195
I sure hope you're not implying what I think you are... ibegurpard Aug 2015 #155
Wasn't "implying" anything, ibegurpard. senz Aug 2015 #165
You must have missed the ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #197
Well, that's weired, EVERY black person I know supports him, save one. grahamhgreen Aug 2015 #192
I suspect that says more about your circles than anything else. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #193
Ben Carson is a corporate tool, what do you mean no one has a problem sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #100
That's not what I wrote. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #104
What speaks volumes to me is that you use the term 'outlier' to describe any PoC who doesn't cui bono Aug 2015 #177
So I should just ignore the polling? ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #182
And the only people who are trying so hard to deprive them of the right sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #19
Proven by the fact that people are still saying things like "his silence" or "refusal to mention" arcane1 Aug 2015 #34
They have nothing. They can't fight him on his stands on issues, his stands are rhett o rick Aug 2015 #87
Ad hominems are all they got. ozone_man Aug 2015 #139
That's because it's a talking point. Maybe the best way to deal with sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #142
That works! I've learned that calling a lie a lie tends to get one's posts hidden arcane1 Aug 2015 #152
Yes, truth can be very disturbing for those who don't want to hear it. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #196
Symone Sanders kicks ass. She's perfect. senz Aug 2015 #133
TRUTH whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #15
Can't rec this enough passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #16
"making up stories about how he can't possibly win" Elmer S. E. Dump Aug 2015 #20
And can we have a drum roll, please!!! GoneOffShore Aug 2015 #22
This diary is from a legitimate FDR Democrat who has the creds to say sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #23
"he can't possibly win" - The Oligarchy L0oniX Aug 2015 #27
Kicking and Rec'ing this and waiting for the naysayers - who are legion - to appear (n/t) GoneOffShore Aug 2015 #21
They're not legiion, on this forum they are about 10%. On DK about the same. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #26
The oligarchy loves their useful fools. L0oniX Aug 2015 #25
Good stuff, Sabrina - thank you for sharing it! dorkzilla Aug 2015 #28
He is the most feared person in Washington dgibby Aug 2015 #110
Aint that the truth! dorkzilla Aug 2015 #120
From your lips to gawd's ears! dgibby Aug 2015 #122
I agree 100% - thatís why this election is so critical dorkzilla Aug 2015 #126
If I wasn't almost 70, I'd dgibby Aug 2015 #138
"Can't believe how much things have changed since then. Breaks my heart." senz Aug 2015 #147
I have an ancestor who was a circuit preacher in Litchfield, and several Methodist ministers dorkzilla Aug 2015 #150
you and I might be cousins grasswire Aug 2015 #154
+ 1 That's how it looks to me. senz Aug 2015 #135
Maybe growing BECAUSE of it. People are sick to death of how these dirty tricksters interfere sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #175
Hey look! Maedhros Aug 2015 #29
That was obvious from day one. But they are failing miserably, see Bernie's sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #33
Oh most definitely ibegurpard Aug 2015 #36
My favorites are the "I was going to vote for Sanders but mean DUers changed my mind" posts arcane1 Aug 2015 #41
I want to hear that argument at the Caucases. JackInGreen Aug 2015 #74
Lol, that IS the funniest one of all. Imagine, you have a candidate, and even if sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #76
Choosing the person who can ask Congress to declare war based on what merrily Aug 2015 #96
Nah, the President can start the war first, then ask Congress later. jeff47 Aug 2015 #127
I realize a statute says that, but that statute may or may not be unconstitutional. merrily Aug 2015 #141
Not to mention supposedly Bernie supporters praising BLM for interrupting his speech. A Simple Game Aug 2015 #91
Yes, it has become pretty ludicrous, but not very effective. They are getting the liberal base sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #97
So it would appear. dgibby Aug 2015 #116
K&R CharlotteVale Aug 2015 #30
F'n A Tweety! If only that video had surfaced earlier much of this crap would have been a moot point Armstead Aug 2015 #31
It was available, and was posted. It won't make a bit of difference to those with sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #37
I shoud've said more widely distributed and visible Armstead Aug 2015 #46
That video would have been ignored just like everything else he's said and done. arcane1 Aug 2015 #39
Only to those with an agenda. To the vast majority of Americans, facts are sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #51
Exactly! That hard work we're signing up for involves more than registering voters and holding signs arcane1 Aug 2015 #55
Minor correction - it's OPOL acronym for One Pissed Off Liberal whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #35
Thanks, I can't believe I made that error, will edit and thank you for sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #42
:) whatchamacallit Aug 2015 #54
Wow... Bubzer Aug 2015 #38
Always was a problem with the owner of the blog. However it is a good sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #45
came as a surprise to me too. navarth Aug 2015 #109
Kos was a Republican who worked for Henry Hyde, he was never a liberal sorry to sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #169
good to know, thanks. navarth Aug 2015 #187
This one fantastic post and sums it up quite nicely. n/t Skwmom Aug 2015 #40
I post there on occasion and consider myself an unapologetic Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #43
It was always that way there, but there are some good diarists sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #60
Yep! Kelvin Mace Aug 2015 #62
Yes, I like his posts. It's been hard to get any interest in Ferguson here sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #65
I had to quit listening to "Make It Plain" because of Markos Moulitsas. Mark Thompson Snotcicles Aug 2015 #44
And thank you for posting. sabrina 1 nt. Snotcicles Aug 2015 #49
You're very welcome Snotcicles! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #199
K&R! K&R! K&R! K&R! Phlem Aug 2015 #47
spot on .... OPOL/Sabrina1 Thank you V0ltairesGh0st Aug 2015 #52
.And then there is this little gem: libodem Aug 2015 #56
I haven't seen or heard any yet, bvf Aug 2015 #67
He's been mockingly referred to as "savior" here, by his opponents arcane1 Aug 2015 #78
Yeah, I've seen a few of those posts. bvf Aug 2015 #83
There are definitely resemblances, but I'm hoping they don't extend all the way. senz Aug 2015 #123
I haven't paid attention to Daily Koch (sic) since I was purged True Blue Door Aug 2015 #59
Lol, nice 'slip'. I wasn't purged, I just left years ago when I saw what was going on sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #66
I chose to play it out to the end, even though I saw it coming. True Blue Door Aug 2015 #92
I was there around 2006 and left in 2008 after watching what was to me sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #200
And the fucked up thing is that for a while, DK was the best thing available. True Blue Door Aug 2015 #205
K & R! SoapBox Aug 2015 #61
Third Way is challenging Sanders on GLBT? merrily Aug 2015 #64
Please understand the following ground rule for this campaign: it's not about what has been done. Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #172
I get that. The pundits on MSNBC explained that Hillary does not want people to look at anything merrily Aug 2015 #184
K&R! bvf Aug 2015 #68
it's always reeked of suspicion that SANDERS is the one supposed to "have a race problem" MisterP Aug 2015 #69
Attack your enemy bvf Aug 2015 #137
That was a very moving piece Babel_17 Aug 2015 #71
OnePissedOffLiberal JackInGreen Aug 2015 #72
Thank You, Sabrina 1! I've bookmarked the OPOL link at Kos... KoKo Aug 2015 #75
Same here. He's a great Leftie Dem with the creds to do what he does, a long sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #77
Think I'll join kos to try to support this poster, though I fear merrily Aug 2015 #80
They've tried before to ban him and the entire blog rose up sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #95
I will not make any comparisons between merrily Aug 2015 #98
ha ha malokvale77 Aug 2015 #117
Great OP! Spirochete Aug 2015 #82
The riech-wing of both parties are petrified of Bernie! He is the new FDR and that terrifies them! Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #84
Sabrina, YOU ROCK! Indepatriot Aug 2015 #85
At a debate in '08 a young woman asked Hillary, "Diamonds or pearls?".... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #86
Thanks once again for posting. The Liberals need to take back their Party from the Conservatives.nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #88
Liberals have been intimidated for too long by the Rovian tactics of sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #108
And to reiterate this most important point passiveporcupine Aug 2015 #89
BLM seems more interested in generating publicity for BLM (and harassing Sanders) Maedhros Aug 2015 #94
July 25 hootinholler Aug 2015 #103
Thank you for this. MuseRider Aug 2015 #90
most excellent!! +1000 bbgrunt Aug 2015 #93
Appalled colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #99
Yes, and now it doesn't just smell bad, we know what it is. sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #101
It isn't happening to Hillary dgibby Aug 2015 #121
We know what it's all about now. Many of us suspected it sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #125
Haven't noticed any "Hillary's a racist" memes floating about online, either. senz Aug 2015 #145
Thom Hartmann's 1st two hours today are on the BLM disruption. senz Aug 2015 #140
K&R Says it all. Should be posted in Hillary Groups. senz Aug 2015 #102
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #111
Nailed it! dgibby Aug 2015 #124
Thanks goes to the diarist who is a superb writer and has sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #130
K and effing R Scuba Aug 2015 #129
Awesome, Sabrina! K&R X 1,000 PatrickforO Aug 2015 #131
Thanks for posting this. K&R eom Purveyor Aug 2015 #132
Kick MoveIt Aug 2015 #146
I'd reccommend this but since 212 people already have, Fawke Em Aug 2015 #148
Credit goes to One Pissed Off Liberal. He's one incredible sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #159
Thank you for expressing our frustration so forcefully I hate liars Aug 2015 #149
It's hella beautiful how a crystal-clear dose of truth clears the air & defogs the windows. 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #156
And the one candidate that wants to restore Glass-Steagall. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #157
Yes, thank you Uncle Joe. It's hard to list all the good things Bernie has worked for sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #166
Thanks for the thanks, sabrina Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #167
Totally agree. And the problem with saying all this now is that some PoC think we are lecturing them cui bono Aug 2015 #161
It doesn't have to be defended. It was a made up dirty trick from the beginning and it is sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #174
"Purges of Liberals" on "that site" -- dailykos.com ?!? ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #163
If it was worth my while, I would post hundreds of links to the history of that site sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #168
Alright, see back in reality, www.dailykos.com is an incredibly liberal site ConservativeDemocrat Aug 2015 #173
Another personal attack from you. I take as much pride in those sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #179
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You forgot to mention the Bashing of Bernie Sanders that has driven so many away sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #202
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No Bernie Bashing here - and you're a member of the Reality Based Community? LiberalElite Aug 2015 #208
K&R Paka Aug 2015 #170
1000 K&R emsimon33 Aug 2015 #171
Awesome! BeanMusical Aug 2015 #178
Thanks Sabrina, and OPOL dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #180
Wow! K&R! This post has hundreds of recommendations! Thank you, sabrina! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #183
Mystified! Thank you Bernie as a Black supporter Farmbrook Aug 2015 #204
Welcome to DU! Glad to have you here! d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #206
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