I agree, but I would add (Reply #163) - Democratic Underground

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Vattel (9,289 posts)

163. I agree, but I would add

that Hillary does have an obligation not to take part in smearing of Sanders. She failed to fulfill that obligation when she said, "there are some who say, 'Well racism is a result of economic inequality.' I don't believe that . . ."

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164 replies	Author	Time	Post
please just stop it. [View all]	cali	Aug 2015	OP
Who is saying her campaign is trying to sabotage Bernie using BLM?	Fearless	Aug 2015	#1
A segment of the DU population.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#3
nah, it's not a good portion of du.	cali	Aug 2015	#4
I edited.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#6
thanks.	cali	Aug 2015	#9
could have fooled me.....	BooScout	Aug 2015	#8
you're evidently easily fooled.	cali	Aug 2015	#10
Naaaaaaa	BooScout	Aug 2015	#16
Numbers of recs and posts. That is about as reliable as political polls this early in the season.	jwirr	Aug 2015	#100
not really	Duckhunter935	Aug 2015	#5
Because she hasn't appeared at any public events?	Fuddnik	Aug 2015	#60
How they don't get that is beyond me. Nt	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#102
and 'they', being another form of 'them'	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#121
Sorry. Don't get what you are saying.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#122
is that because the Public	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#119
HRH diligently and studiously avoids mingling with the peasantry.	hifiguy	Aug 2015	#149
All across Social Media Hillary IS being blamed so rightly or wrongly	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#12
And there we have it.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#13
Yes, the reality of what these protests have done. I thought I was pretty clear	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#17
I wonder if people actually read the stuff they write? n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#18
They don't.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#20
Facts are facts. No one should ever have supported these tactics from the beginning.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#25
The "facts"? ... Okay. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#31
Uh huh	zappaman	Aug 2015	#50
Well at least you're honest about it!	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#153
Honesty.	zappaman	Aug 2015	#154
Normally I would ask for proof of that 'stuff' you just made up.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#156
Pure speculation, innuendo and personal opinion are now "facts", did you not get the memo from Fox?	Fred Sanders	Aug 2015	#64
I remember a time when DU used to laugh at such crap ...	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#70
I am still laughing! And not worrying much about the nonsensical rantings, there are a few folks like you keeping it real.	Fred Sanders	Aug 2015	#73
LOL. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#76
What's with all this ganging up on one member of DU?	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#125
People who tell inconvenient truths that contradict the groupthink	hifiguy	Aug 2015	#151
Looks so to be the Case	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#160
What did she say that wasn't factual?	Fawke Em	Aug 2015	#110
Okay. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#113
Can't see Hill getting tangled up in the middle of a half baked internet	oasis	Aug 2015	#46
She probably isn't tangled up in it. That's what political operatives are for.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#49
If this incident is presented to her by the media, then and only	oasis	Aug 2015	#54
"many people" I've seen you speak for the American people before.	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#63
Are you speaking for the American people now?	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#81
"deny that reality" You just can't help yourself.	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#93
Well said.	zappaman	Aug 2015	#101
For Pete's sake, Sabrina did not say that it's true that	Fawke Em	Aug 2015	#117
Please. She's all over this thread saying that Clinton is responsible.	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#120
Actually she did say that	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#124
Why?	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#128
lol, what?? What "other side" are you talking about??	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#132
I'm pretty sure you are doing your part to promote that perception on social media	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#106
And I think you believe a conspiracy theory.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#92
Couldn't POSSIBLY have anything to do with comments like these...!!!	MADem	Aug 2015	#118
Your biased interpretations of what you read on social media aren't facts.	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#59
I can clearly remember a day in June 1968, so no, not just image.	irisblue	Aug 2015	#79
So BLM protestors are now armed assassins?	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#96
I did not write that, I did not say that. You are in error if that's what you think	irisblue	Aug 2015	#103
Of course you implied it.	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#109
Let's put two and two together:	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#112
If you want to talk about ME this probably isn't the place. I prefer to stick to	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#146
Your (mis)interpretations are not "facts." That is the point, and when	R B Garr	Aug 2015	#148
Good grief.	Skidmore	Aug 2015	#126
and I agree. This whole issue, if not a tactic by	bbgrunt	Aug 2015	#144
So do I. I have a quote from you about heckling as a tactic and the gay people who used it:	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#57
I have evolved. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#71
of course you have	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#82
As apparently many formerly strident critics haved. And what I say to them I say to you, which is	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2015	#135
OUCH! That's gonna leave a mark. Seems this "evolution" thing is like a "Free Pass" on any issue....	Indepatriot	Aug 2015	#114
Wrongly so...you blame Hillary	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#15
I thought it was hilarious that you and others were making demands of Sen. Sanders	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#21
Sad that you attempt to make me responsible for other's statements....	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#28
I mostly agree with this.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#42
The poster evidently believes that is how you define "fact"	zappaman	Aug 2015	#43
Well...	Dr Hobbitstein	Aug 2015	#62
Living in ones own world can be fun	zappaman	Aug 2015	#83
Well, if you say so. Nice button, enjoy that world, though frankly I would	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#90
Sneering bullies are generally not happy people.	Vattel	Aug 2015	#162
Thank you, and I agree, about how unhappy sneering bullies are.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#164
The poster said "Hillary gets the blame. Sorry" By 8 o'clock last night anyone who was watching	jwirr	Aug 2015	#108
Thank you, stating a fact creates quite stir it seems. Bernie Sanders defended Hillary	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#155
"take credit for your own statement instead of deflecting? " I read that as defecating, lol.	bettyellen	Aug 2015	#158
That too lol	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#159
It broke the tension of this thread for me, ha ha	bettyellen	Aug 2015	#161
Why should her campaign say they're NOT involved?	George II	Aug 2015	#38
Because her campaign and surrogates	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#45
Thank you for your reasoned and accurate assessment.	Fawke Em	Aug 2015	#97
Thank you, that is exactly what people are saying. Wnen something makes no sense	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#98
So it must be Hillary and not a Republican?	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#123
And I am with you on that.	zeemike	Aug 2015	#116
I LOVE this post	hifiguy	Aug 2015	#150
I didn't bookmark or copy/paste them, but...	George II	Aug 2015	#26
Have you actually read this forum this morning? nt	Adrahil	Aug 2015	#27
Here is one of the more blatantly obvious ones....	George II	Aug 2015	#33
Here is another one:	George II	Aug 2015	#40
Mostly twitter and facebook. They went wild last night.	jwirr	Aug 2015	#99
Kick.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#2
"absolutely isn't behind this"	aspirant	Aug 2015	#139
Not my job.	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#141
Then demanding Proof from anyone else	aspirant	Aug 2015	#142
Yah I wasn't making demands...	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#143
The proof is in the abosute lack of evidence.	NCTraveler	Aug 2015	#157
No one is ever obligated to do the right thing. That's why it's a matter of -honor-	HereSince1628	Aug 2015	#7
Nailed it	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#133
Regardless, it's a campaign tactic. We are in the middle of a campaign. As to her connection to	GoneFishin	Aug 2015	#11
And it could also be someone else that is hoping for a twofer. What better way could you use to	A Simple Game	Aug 2015	#41
Lack of proof is no proof of no connection?!? Argue from ignorance much....?	Moonwalk	Aug 2015	#87
I was not the one who asserted that there was not a connection. No. And you ... ?	GoneFishin	Aug 2015	#91
Stop what?? Thinking for ourselves? YOU are entitled to YOUR opinion.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#14
Because this division isn't good for the party...	Agschmid	Aug 2015	#23
Yes, from the beginning ti was intended to divide the party. And people here	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#29
This "division" is not within our party. BLM is not a Democratic Party-affiliated group. Please	Hortensis	Aug 2015	#39
"Good Democrats, lifelong Democrats"	Dr Hobbitstein	Aug 2015	#66
Stalking again?	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#74
Nope, reading a thread	Dr Hobbitstein	Aug 2015	#78
More stalking behavior, which has gone on for a very long time now.	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#84
Keep playing the victim, Sabrina.	Dr Hobbitstein	Aug 2015	#89
And why not?	zappaman	Aug 2015	#94
Ha!	Dr Hobbitstein	Aug 2015	#104
And when you're not good at something?	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#115
I will repeat this as politely as I can, I support the Labeling of our Food and I oppose	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#95
Post removed	Post removed	Aug 2015	#107
Again repeating a request that this poster refrain from addressing me, due to	sabrina 1	Aug 2015	#111
Good lord, you are all over DU posting several dozen posts	Sheepshank	Aug 2015	#127
Results of your Jury Service	Purveyor	Aug 2015	#131
Project Much?	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#137
You said 'hypocrisy' first	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#136
Exactly	LittleBlue	Aug 2015	#85
Not Hillary at all.	Lunabell	Aug 2015	#19
+1 ... I agree. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Aug 2015	#22
that may be a first.	cali	Aug 2015	#24
Is she behind this?	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#30
I agree.	tazkcmo	Aug 2015	#32
This is sheer nonsense.	MoonRiver	Aug 2015	#44
her campaign was the one that began floating	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#48
Total B.S.	MoonRiver	Aug 2015	#55
BLM is not a cohesive organization	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#67
Exactly what evidence do you have of any association?	MoonRiver	Aug 2015	#130
Did you read my post?	tazkcmo	Aug 2015	#51
Sorry, I think I responded to the wrong post.	MoonRiver	Aug 2015	#61
That makes sense.	tazkcmo	Aug 2015	#65
Same here. :-)	MoonRiver	Aug 2015	#69
This message was self-deleted by its author	Alkene	Aug 2015	#34
Which is why it is simpler to take people at their word	jberryhill	Aug 2015	#35
I don't really care any more whether she's directly involved or not	Doctor_J	Aug 2015	#36
"Soros funding of BLM is not evidence."...	DonViejo	Aug 2015	#37
Most people tend not to respond in the best manner when they are insulted. It's human nature.	jalan48	Aug 2015	#47
Sorry	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#52
And you passed it a long time ago	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#53
Keep it up	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#58
Hillary is not behind the Black Lives Matter protests	ibegurpard	Aug 2015	#75
See...	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#86
and here we thought	Marty McGraw	Aug 2015	#138
Who the hell	Bobbie Jo	Aug 2015	#140
Nixon didn't have clue on who Donald Segretti was	Ichingcarpenter	Aug 2015	#56
If Hillary gains anything from Bernie's engagement with BLM, it should be that she learns	ancianita	Aug 2015	#68
Problem with BLM	Zoonart	Aug 2015	#72
I'd like to draw a parallel that some may find annoying	starroute	Aug 2015	#77
I like that.	bbgrunt	Aug 2015	#145
I'd hate to have you working against me!	Babel_17	Aug 2015	#147
I agree Cali.	jalan48	Aug 2015	#80
I Smell A Rat	Yallow	Aug 2015	#88
Nice straw man you have there.	EEO	Aug 2015	#105
Sanders is about to be sunk by SJWs	Prism	Aug 2015	#129
a lot of the suspicion is also from the similar language to the Clinton side: if you're not	MisterP	Aug 2015	#134
Marissa Jenae does tweet under #BowDownBernie how is that less offensive than the one you mention?	peacebird	Aug 2015	#152
I agree, but I would add	Vattel	Aug 2015	#163

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