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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Supporters - Please read my post [View all]bettyellen
(47,209 posts)293. Exhibit A, the foot has been shot.
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All I really see from Hillary supporters, boiled down, is Bernie cannot win so if I don't
djean111
Aug 2015
#1
I like your post, Bravenak. I wish we could have more rational discussions about
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#80
Yes, I do see that in your post. And I appreciate it. It is true that people will
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#98
I agree with what you are saying - I love President Obama - but how do we approach issues
jwirr
Aug 2015
#93
Thank you for a very deep and thought provoking OP. If you haven't already I think you
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#213
If I wasn't so busy in real life, with my daughters autism and other family issues, I would.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#308
Maybe liking me is just not for you. I'll try my BEST to survive this deadly blow.nt
bravenak
Aug 2015
#353
Bernie's successful Burlington, VT waterfront Campaign Kickoff event occurred
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#345
I was responding to 142 where you say if people perceive Bernie to be behind the curve, it's
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#352
Sanders has never said that he was the candidate of "hardwoking people, white people"
eridani
Aug 2015
#398
If you look at the response of the candidates to the issue since the protest...
stone space
Aug 2015
#284
Huh. So if Bernie campaigns more directly and effectively to AA voters, he's "selling out" and
scarletwoman
Aug 2015
#289
I'm not speaking to all black voters. I am speaking in direct response to your post.
cui bono
Aug 2015
#246
I never demanded anything. I simply stated that I thought your sig is divisive and so I wouldn't
cui bono
Aug 2015
#270
Interesting, one of the most ardent Sanders supporters had very nice and pleasant...
George II
Aug 2015
#433
I think your taking the OP the wrong way. The OPs view, rightly or wrongly is that Hillary appears
still_one
Aug 2015
#13
It is both. Bernie doesn't run his campaign in a vacuum. In the Netroots/BLM town hall, if you
still_one
Aug 2015
#28
SBS has addressed law enforcement abuses against AAs through calls for better 'community policing',
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#143
All of that and how Bernie has been addressing the needs of black Americans through
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#87
I think Bernie's doing a good job of putting the truth out there. Rumors can't stop him.
senz
Aug 2015
#196
Bravenak, I have NEVER put down Barack Obama. I defend him online and in person. ALWAYS.
senz
Aug 2015
#327
"We know the Clintons...they made terrible decisions...those facts..." < "responsiveness". eek!
jtuck004
Aug 2015
#155
The GOP invented ' Citizens United ' so they could slander Hillary, Ugly?
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2015
#341
I responded to you in the other thread, Don;t know if I should post it here or not.
Raine1967
Aug 2015
#20
Aloha brave, 1st of all, thank you for your OP..I, of course, really like this part.. you know I do!
Cha
Aug 2015
#265
Yeah. I always try to get along with her regardless. She is VERY passionate. Very.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#269
Bravenak, please read my post just below Cha's after this one of yours
passiveporcupine
Aug 2015
#379
He's running as in a dem primary because he does not want Dem's to lose
passiveporcupine
Aug 2015
#364
it's also weird so many people missed the point that you want to take AA votes FROM Hillary
carolinayellowdog
Aug 2015
#214
"she listens to what is going on and jumps right in to say the right thing." REALLY?
senz
Aug 2015
#184
The worst I've seen from supporters attacking black people online has been on Twitter, not here.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2015
#43
Just type Twitter, or poke at one of those little bluebirds you see here and there, and
MADem
Aug 2015
#209
You should follow people who are supportive of BLM, I have been following them and
sabrina 1
Aug 2015
#91
I'm still fairly new to it myself, and I'm sure I don't have it properly configured.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Aug 2015
#210
Thank you for this post. I think open, reality based discussion is key to progress.
DLnyc
Aug 2015
#22
Bernie will strengthen on issues for black people, as he has for all through his 40 year career.
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#187
I think we Bernie supporters could also learn a lot from Obama on issues of race.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#41
I actually would like for him to step up even more. And I fully expect him to as the end of his term
jwirr
Aug 2015
#156
Yes, he's in a position to actually do something. He would be listened to by all Democrats.
jalan48
Aug 2015
#164
As someone who will wear Bernie's credentials on Election Day, if he is the nominee, I appreciate
msanthrope
Aug 2015
#56
I will not hesitate to vote for him, and I will not hesitate to work on his behalf for voter
msanthrope
Aug 2015
#60
Me too. I will do what I need to do for the nominee, regardless. I'm cool like that.nt
bravenak
Aug 2015
#63
Sorry but that's bullshit. Your response proved that it's impossible to be "nice enough" for you
Armstead
Aug 2015
#106
Are you done being nasty yet, or do you need to go on for a few more posts to prove my point?
bravenak
Aug 2015
#170
Why would I give a damn if a candidate gets into office if they are handcuffed into continuing
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#219
But only the same some that was coming anyway. If Sanders has to be Rubinesque Clintonite
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#330
This is more of an emotional appeal and a request for a change in the way things are discussed.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#332
I don't see how that works short term to somehow win the nomination without a case for running
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#423
I don't see it as an attack. Seeing some of the paternalistic sermons from my fellow Sandernists...
marble falls
Aug 2015
#67
If we don't face truth and start sticking together its going to be too late at some point. We'll ...
marble falls
Aug 2015
#115
Obama is a hard if not impossible act to follow-- which needs to be openly discussed
carolinayellowdog
Aug 2015
#72
I do not have to agree to think an opinion was expressed in a respectful manner awesomely.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#123
Interesting post, esp. how you note that people distinguish between pride in Pres. Obama's
appalachiablue
Aug 2015
#207
I've got major issues with the idea that anything Obama has done must be supported and adopted
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#85
I'm all for building on the positive but there is a lot of shut up and embrace the negative in there
TheKentuckian
Aug 2015
#362
It is a universal mystery that I need to keep secret or the world might explode.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#139
I'd very much like Bernie to win the nomination. That's why I hate seeing his supposed supporters
scarletwoman
Aug 2015
#198
"Go jump in a lake"... Wow.. you are so clever! How do they stand your cleverness?!
Cha
Aug 2015
#351
""Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results." unk. n/t
jtuck004
Aug 2015
#177
I enjoyed your post very much, and really appreciate the time and thought and effort you have taken
LiberalAndProud
Aug 2015
#189
You know, it IS possible to express a dissenting view without including a gratuitous insult
scarletwoman
Aug 2015
#221
Pyou don't think black folks have had to shut up about their issues and just vote for the democrat?
bravenak
Aug 2015
#226
LGBTers were berated in this fashion in the past several elections. You are deeply wrong here.
Prism
Aug 2015
#365
I'm sorry, but comparing yourselves to an oppressed community is off putting.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#369
I agree with you completely. (except for the 'good OP' part since I won't read it with that sig)
cui bono
Aug 2015
#235
I'd like to ask you a question. I know you post in the AA forum that your lean toward Bernie...
aikoaiko
Aug 2015
#206
Not to annoy, but it appears the Obamas and Hillary are not at odds in these pictures:
freshwest
Aug 2015
#453
Well, I hope the expessions in those photos are sincere. Am sure you know about "politics and
senz
Aug 2015
#455
I think an OP explaining why you like Bernie for his policies (not simply not liking HRC for her's)
aikoaiko
Aug 2015
#243
I appreciate your thoughts here. But the differences between Sanders supporters
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#216
I don't think it will be a problem. Sen Sanders offers honesty and integrity. His
rhett o rick
Aug 2015
#285
bravenak, I like you, I don't like your sig. It's divisive. When you change it I'll read your OP.
cui bono
Aug 2015
#225
I got enough lectures on civil rights from white liberals to last a lifetime. No more.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#233
I do not dislike you. I dislike what you are saying on DU lately and your sig line, though as I said
cui bono
Aug 2015
#258
Girl..sigh* I want to appreciate your time and efforts. But I really don't understand why you bother
Number23
Aug 2015
#230
But you said those nasty things and hurt my feelings. I was wrong about you and number23 was right.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#277
That does sadden me, Really your an intelligent courageous person, but fundamental condescension,,
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2015
#333
I respect and valueD their insight, but Will exercise Free Speech without apology, sorry . Capital D
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2015
#340
No lots of other gods and goddesses here with me. And lots of peons looking up from below
Number23
Aug 2015
#371
I think the OP is spot on, and the Bernie Sanders campaign needs to SHAPE UP
cloudythescribbler
Aug 2015
#319
I am marking this so I can come back later and post a full reply, after I get back home.
bravenak
Aug 2015
#326
This primary is going to be about the harm of Neo-Liberalism, and that's where He wins .
orpupilofnature57
Aug 2015
#337
Thank you. Yes, the destruction that began with Ronald Reagan and continued through every
YOHABLO
Aug 2015
#339
You've posted some good things in this thread, but you really stepped in it here:
scarletwoman
Aug 2015
#457
bravenak, thank you so much for this elucidating post. You helped ME to understand
DebJ
Aug 2015
#363
I never forget that!!! It was the best funniest stuff that ever happened on DU since;
bravenak
Aug 2015
#397
I have seen plenty of that sort of "talking down" to blacks, Latinos and women.
Vattel
Aug 2015
#430
Blaming this exploding racism on a Black man makes one look stupid AND racist.
DonCoquixote
Aug 2015
#475
I can't even begin to tell you how much I appreciate what you are doing, bravenak.
hedda_foil
Aug 2015
#456
I'm so glad. I hope you'll send him the link to this whole amazing thread right away.
hedda_foil
Aug 2015
#463
which candidate is speaking about issues of importance to black people?
noiretextatique
Aug 2015
#480