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rhett o rick

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24. Absolutely not. He proposes a windfall profits tax on the major oil companies. nm

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James Hansen on Hillary Clinton's climate change proposal: "It's just plain silly" [View all] marmar Jul 2015 OP

The headline is the title of the link you snipped from which itself is a snip. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #1

Second Hillary bashing article from the Guardian posted this week. misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #3

Its the fucking paper Greenwald worshiped.... Historic NY Jul 2015 #4

The Guardian is like the NY Post? marmar Jul 2015 #8

Ever read then.............try Historic NY Jul 2015 #19

……. and try…… and try….. and try…… Ever read then. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #72

Exactly my point. Greenwald/Guardian misterhighwasted Jul 2015 #16

So what news outlet do you prefer? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #25

In what respect, rhett? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #39

It's easy for to criticize the Guardian, but harder to be honest about what news outlets rhett o rick Jul 2015 #63

Straight forward question… what news outlet do you prefer? Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #73

Sorry. My answer was supposed to be a joke RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #74

I got it Fairgo Jul 2015 #95

You mean (thanks in great part to Greenwald) the Pulitzer Prize-winning Guardian? RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #37

Great Pic of bffs - a match made in,well,not in heaven. Divernan Jul 2015 #60

You have no fucking clue what the Guardian is if you think it is remotely like the NY Post LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #38

They're just throwing stuff up against the wall and seeing what sticks RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #42

Very obvious you don't know 840high Jul 2015 #53

Greenwald gable garble. Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #69

That's a ridiculous comparison. The Guardian does good journalism. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #92

This message was self-deleted by its author George II Jul 2015 #5

The Guardian has zero credibility these days. George II Jul 2015 #6

So which news outlet do you support? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #26

Wow, ok then. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #32

Yeah, Zero credibility from right wingers. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #45

BS 840high Jul 2015 #55

Indeed. Can you remind me specifically when the blew their credibility? Luminous Animal Jul 2015 #70

Hhhmmm, who is more credible? A Pulitzer Prize-winning newspaper or George II? Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #93

Unfortunately, if you want to win a national election in this country BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #2

Yup... and more than that.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #11

Agreed on both counts BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #17

That isn't true at all. There is a very good way to do it. kristopher Jul 2015 #61

Did this guy even read her plan?? JaneyVee Jul 2015 #7

Those conservatives...shame on them. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #12

Just more let's jump on this and expect the links never to be read and the truth located. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #58

James Hansen has zero credibility! RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #9

:) marmar Jul 2015 #14

And *immediately* so. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #33

and they have known and understood the problem all that time reddread Jul 2015 #30

He's an ally of Glen Greenwald. They are in cahoots. I just know it. Armstead Jul 2015 #71

And I'll bet he's got boxes stored in Comrade Eddie's garage! RufusTFirefly Jul 2015 #75

Hansen is right. Hillary is following down the same path as Obama on energy Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #10

Well.... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #18

sure Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #21

So because you can not change your chart tomorrow.... sheshe2 Jul 2015 #27

uh...climate is an emergency. We can't wait and pray for the free market to fix it. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #28

+1 daleanime Jul 2015 #41

Your expecting just the US to do something... Historic NY Jul 2015 #50

I think China should limit fossil fuels. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #51

The question is, does Clinton really believe in climate change? Is she willing to rhett o rick Jul 2015 #23

there is no believe or disbelieve reddread Jul 2015 #31

Imagine if the nation would have actually listened to Jimmy Carter? Maedhros Jul 2015 #87

So is he saying that if we made the cost of solar energy lower than that of fossil fuels dsc Jul 2015 #13

We can't limit carbon by price and market incentives alone. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #29

And how do you propose people will be convinced to "reject" fossil fuels? kristopher Jul 2015 #65

The government has to approve major fossil fuel infrastructure... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #66

That isn't what you were "just saying" kristopher Jul 2015 #76

I certainly think we should be building and investing in renewable energy like wind and solar... Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #77

Taxing is an economic solution kristopher Jul 2015 #79

Is Bernie proposing a hefty gas tax? BainsBane Jul 2015 #15

Absolutely not. He proposes a windfall profits tax on the major oil companies. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #24

How is that going to make drivers move away from gas cars? nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #34

The question was, "Is Bernie proposing a hefty gas tax?" and the answer is no. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #64

That was not my question. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #68

Why is it necessary to ask that question? Why don't you simply state your opinion? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #78

Got it. You don't want to answer my question. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #80

I think it's a logical fallacy to try to make ones point via insinuating questions. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #81

Project much? SunSeeker Jul 2015 #85

First off, that's not even the biggest problem. AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #36

So the answer is no BainsBane Jul 2015 #43

It's easy to blame everything on corporations!!!1!1!111!111 Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #54

She's lecturing the everloving f**k out of several people on multiple threads & subjects DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #67

Coal is a fossil fuel. Do we burn more gas (co2 ton for ton) or coal? AtheistCrusader Jul 2015 #62

If that's the extent of her plan, he's absolutely right. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #20

Of course not. He does not appear to have read Hillary's plan. SunSeeker Jul 2015 #35

The more I hear about Hillary the farther away I get from wanting to vote for her. Kablooie Jul 2015 #22

The more I hear from Hillary's supporters the father away I want to get from her LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #40

I'll go with James Hansen on this one. He has a proven track record. jalan48 Jul 2015 #44

So, tell me the political strategy for implementing those policies... Adrahil Jul 2015 #46

Well, Hillary needs to at least propose or lead a discussion about it. jalan48 Jul 2015 #49

I don't necessarily agree. Adrahil Jul 2015 #52

There are lots of smart people who don't seem overly concerned about climate change. jalan48 Jul 2015 #57

I suspect she is just a politician... Adrahil Jul 2015 #86

Somehow comparing marriage equality with climate change seems a bit ludicrous. jalan48 Jul 2015 #88

I'm not comparing the subject matter, but rather political environment. nt Adrahil Jul 2015 #89

Mybe some things are more important than others-a sense of urgency maybe? jalan48 Jul 2015 #90

I don't necessarily disagree in principal.... Adrahil Jul 2015 #91

It all sounds good. jalan48 Jul 2015 #94

Republicans will never vote for it it. But if Democrats won't vote for it that's even worse. Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #82

Well, there is a lot of stuff, I'd vote for... Adrahil Jul 2015 #84

Wait, What!?! Hillary was pandering... Cosmic Kitten Jul 2015 #47

Not our queen Hillary - lol 840high Jul 2015 #56

Maybe I am too cynical, but I expect Clinton will soon be strongly supporting biofuels. Vattel Jul 2015 #48

"...we need a president who will set ambitious goals." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #59

Hillary will do or say anything in order to ensure she can represent her wealthy Zorra Jul 2015 #83

Another right wing hit piece on Hillary? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #96

! reddread Jul 2015 #97

K & R L0oniX Jul 2015 #98