2016 Postmortem

Kalidurga

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152. Oh dear...

Mon Jul 20, 2015, 12:28 PM

Jul 2015

I saw plenty of criticism of Code Pink's tactics I am not sure I was a member here at that time, but on other sites definitely. I saw a lot of critics here criticize OWS, they didn't like the bridge and street blocking and they thought the tents were stupid among other things. Protesters are rarely given much respect even from Democrats.

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Sanders and O'Malley were ambushed [View all] flor-de-jasmim Jul 2015 OP

You guys have got to stop this. It makes you look bad. bravenak Jul 2015 #1

But ya gotta understand! scarletwoman Jul 2015 #8

I keep hoping that it's performance art. bravenak Jul 2015 #9

I keep hoping it's Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #12

Paid trolls? Anything? I hope it's a strange thing that will pass in the light of Monday. bravenak Jul 2015 #17

"ratfuck Bernie with the black community" is what #BLM did, despite the fact he's in their corner. RiverLover Jul 2015 #22

I support ANY effort that gets more voters to tell ANY politician that votes have to be EARNED. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #26

Puhleeze! He shoud have hire some black staff. Like I have said a jillion times. bravenak Jul 2015 #27

Is that the Cary Elwes one? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #30

Yep. It was the end. I love him. bravenak Jul 2015 #32

Ivan Drago? London Lover Man Jul 2015 #93

YES bravenak Jul 2015 #95

Well we've had a black AG and a black president. Red Knight Jul 2015 #89

That has fuck all to do with it. bravenak Jul 2015 #91

That's the point. Red Knight Jul 2015 #96

I'm going to eat some cake now. bravenak Jul 2015 #100

I'll have ice cream. Red Knight Jul 2015 #144

^^^^ bravenak ^^^^^ hedda_foil Jul 2015 #175

Robin Hood Men In Tights??? zappaman Jul 2015 #182

Love it! Awesome movie! bravenak Jul 2015 #184

.. zappaman Jul 2015 #186

"He shoud have hire some black staff." SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #205

This comment/question here ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #47

And a complete lack of understanding of who the protestors are, and what they're protesting. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #101

+1 ... There is not a lot that we agree on; but, here, we are in complete agreement! n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #130

I suspect we agree on a lot more than either of us know. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #133

True ... So, true. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #136

Republicans being paid to ratfuck Bernie with the black community. left-of-center2012 Jul 2015 #25

I'm talking about all of the outrage diaries, not the protest. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #28

Hillary Hillary Hillary!! She does not control black people!! We are not robots!!! Damn! bravenak Jul 2015 #29

Methinks the bravenak doth protest too much... Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #35

Lol!! bravenak Jul 2015 #36

Methinks you don't know what you're talking about Scootaloo Jul 2015 #177

Hillary did it from Arkansas! Are they nuts?! Don't they have a clue that Tia Oso and the Cha Jul 2015 #119

hahahaha... quickesst Jul 2015 #66

Hillary fer sure! zappaman Jul 2015 #185

That reminds me of AngryBlackLady's tweet that is said to have started the #berniesoblack hashtag.. Cha Jul 2015 #106

I hope she burns it! Burn it down!! bravenak Jul 2015 #109

rofl Cha Jul 2015 #121

White progressives know more than anyone whats best for you and me Gman Jul 2015 #76

They never stop. bravenak Jul 2015 #78

Amen Gman Jul 2015 #118

That right there is why whenever I refer to (DU) "progressives" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #134

But ask CAREFULLY, and gently, now!! MADem Jul 2015 #108

LOL! Gman Jul 2015 #117

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jul 2015 #146

Good article that frames the issue well Gman Jul 2015 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author PotatoChip Jul 2015 #165

Nailed it. zappaman Jul 2015 #187

+1,000,000. nt MADem Jul 2015 #103

This from the anonymous poster who advocated racial rioting, looting, and violence brentspeak Jul 2015 #140

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #192

The ones on Twitter ding this resulted in #blacktwitter going with #berniesoblack MohRokTah Jul 2015 #142

But how can you expect a Presidential candidate to be able to roll with the punches? It's not fair!! stevenleser Jul 2015 #172

Once again you are absolutely right Bravenak notadmblnd Jul 2015 #178

You are correct. lovemydog Aug 2015 #206

It strikes me as odd that Bernie, who has a lifetime record of ladjf Jul 2015 #2

O'Malley was the first BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #4

Don't deny what to whom? nt ladjf Jul 2015 #5

It's called humor BeyondGeography Jul 2015 #10

Glad to hear that humor was your point. ladjf Jul 2015 #15

'What about the dozen or so Republican Candidates'? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #13

To me it appears that by shouting Democratic candidates off the stage, ladjf Jul 2015 #19

To me, it just points out nobody even wastes their times with those RW bozos. nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #21

and then when those RW bozos end up in office, everybody cries about them. nt magical thyme Jul 2015 #40

That bitter threat is not helping. Let US ignore you or the republicans will beat you. bravenak Jul 2015 #42

that wasn't a bitter threat. it was a fact. O'Malley and Bernie haven't ignored anybody magical thyme Jul 2015 #51

Fact is, you NEED black voters. Might be a good idea to stop trying to piss them off. bravenak Jul 2015 #56

I'm not trying to piss anybody off. If you're getting pissed off, that's your issue not mine. magical thyme Jul 2015 #59

I am pissed. bravenak Jul 2015 #62

if others arent hearing what you want them to hear from you HFRN Jul 2015 #80

They don't want to hear what black people think. Why do you think there are so FEW here? bravenak Jul 2015 #86

'They don't want to hear what black people think' HFRN Jul 2015 #87

I am saying exactly that. They don't know and don't wanna know. bravenak Jul 2015 #90

there's a classic cartoon HFRN Jul 2015 #107

"We don't like your TONE" is really not a good argument to make in this circumstance. nt MADem Jul 2015 #113

What's wrong with you, GF!! You're PISSED? MADem Jul 2015 #112

. bravenak Jul 2015 #114

straw man arguements are a concession that you dont have a good rebuttal HFRN Jul 2015 #122

Is your name Bravenak? Or do you feel a need to ANSWER for HER, too? MADem Jul 2015 #124

we're hit the maximum intendation on replies in this thread HFRN Jul 2015 #125

Tone arguments do not fly when they're used to stifle appropriate indignation and frustration. MADem Jul 2015 #126

I listen to what black 840high Jul 2015 #179

It's what they say behind your back and out of earshot... nc4bo Jul 2015 #195

+ a fucking 1000! zappaman Jul 2015 #189

talk instead of shouting Alexa100 Jul 2015 #65

that's everyone's pet peave HFRN Jul 2015 #110

No one gets "shouted down" on the internet, though. MADem Jul 2015 #116

Did you offer the same advice mcar Jul 2015 #120

Did they shout down Progressive candidates? BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #127

And this is the key. You don't care about their issue, you care that they affronted your candidate stevenleser Jul 2015 #167

You don't know shit about what I care about BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #168

Yes, I do, because it comes out in your writing. You're dismissing the BLM folks because they stevenleser Jul 2015 #170

Maybe they will "sin" against Hilary next BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #171

Oh dear... Kalidurga Jul 2015 #152

I don't recall seeing any OWS criticism on DU mcar Jul 2015 #159

I did see it. Kalidurga Jul 2015 #160

There was some BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #169

is that a wish or a fear heaven05 Jul 2015 #57

after the damage that W brought? seriously? magical thyme Jul 2015 #60

Hey okay heaven05 Jul 2015 #67

I agree 1,000% with what BLM is trying to do. I don't agree with how they did it at Netroots Nation magical thyme Jul 2015 #72

fine heaven05 Jul 2015 #84

so what did shouting down O'Malley accomplish? magical thyme Jul 2015 #88

Been talking for years heaven05 Jul 2015 #98

Sanders has done what he could in the position he was in. magical thyme Jul 2015 #143

is that a fear or a hope heaven05 Jul 2015 #55

#blacklivesmatter would get closer to their goals shouting at a brick wall than they would MohRokTah Jul 2015 #145

What about the sitting President and AG? Maedhros Jul 2015 #188

If someone would take a moment to listen to what BLM said ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2015 #52

it is very hard to hear on the tapes. I listened & couldn't understand more than 50% of their words magical thyme Jul 2015 #63

yeah, yeah, yeah heaven05 Jul 2015 #54

No....they were ill prepared BooScout Jul 2015 #3

I believe BLM is partially funded by George Soros, who is quite adept at having demonstrations djean111 Jul 2015 #6

Oh my God. Really people? sufrommich Jul 2015 #16

I cannot handle this. Soros soros soros!!!! Sounds like Rush or Hannity. bravenak Jul 2015 #18

This last couple of days on DU have been a real eye opener. sufrommich Jul 2015 #20

I have NEVER seen the like!! This is just about as bad as it gets. Oh the humanity!!! bravenak Jul 2015 #24

lol! nt sufrommich Jul 2015 #31

Yeah, totally preposterous. Because nobody ever attempted to manipulate public opinion. Coo-coo for GoneFishin Jul 2015 #97

I have heaven05 Jul 2015 #49

I agree that 'Soros' tends to be a RW talking point HFRN Jul 2015 #73

This has to stop. bravenak Jul 2015 #75

Then don't read it. 840high Jul 2015 #181

Yes - really. 840high Jul 2015 #180

Is this satire? Raine1967 Jul 2015 #23

Glenn Beck, is that you? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #39

Does Obamacare cover CT? These conspiracies seem to spread like viruses. bravenak Jul 2015 #46

#CutTheCheck udbcrzy2 Jul 2015 #64

Free Republic's thataway. Arkana Jul 2015 #70

You are repeating a WASHINGTON TIMES conspiracy that has been de-bunked by SNOPES. MADem Jul 2015 #123

Wrong. Snopes found true that Soros Foundation is funding Black Activist groups... HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #151

WRONG--Snopes found FALSE that he was funding PROTESTS, and that's what you are insinuating, here. MADem Jul 2015 #153

HERE is what snopes says: HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #155

You're damn right. FALSE. What part of that word is unclear to you? MADem Jul 2015 #161

What part of TRUE don't you comprehend? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #162

I've provided excerpts from SNOPES to show that your framing is FALSE. MADem Jul 2015 #164

djean111, 5 votes of support from jury; alerter, 1 vote Divernan Jul 2015 #135

Good results. 840high Jul 2015 #183

How did you find this out? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #147

The Moonie Times had a false article making the claim...SNOPES debunked it. MADem Jul 2015 #154

Bernie's economic platform Cosmocat Jul 2015 #7

+all. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #14

BTW Cosmocat Jul 2015 #193

This message was self-deleted by its author Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #37

Get over it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #11

You really think what #BLM did will help get Bernie elected? Wow. RiverLover Jul 2015 #33

If he rises to the challenge? Absolutely. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #34

This is as spot-on as Mr. Sanders analysis of the systemic injustice in our economy. n/t Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #38

"figure out how to USE them" heaven05 Jul 2015 #45

The keys. Use the keys. bravenak Jul 2015 #48

The height of arrogance. Bobbie Jo Jul 2015 #58

I suspect he already has specific ideas to work on ending police violence, but I'm glad it's early magical thyme Jul 2015 #44

You get over it. whathehell Jul 2015 #201

sure were heaven05 Jul 2015 #41

All Too True cantbeserious Jul 2015 #43

It won't matter a whit in the long run. Bernie's message is consistent as is his ... Scuba Jul 2015 #50

That's his biggest strength, AND his biggest weakness. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #68

I agree with everything you wrote; I didn't mean to imply that the BLM issue didn't matter ... Scuba Jul 2015 #156

I think it's a wonderful opportunity. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #158

I hope you are right. nt SusanCalvin Jul 2015 #173

You have to understand no one outside the campaigns is interested in what they really have to say. mmonk Jul 2015 #53

Sanders has stronger civil rights record than all other 2016 candidates . . . Triana Jul 2015 #61

Yup... truebrit71 Jul 2015 #129

A planned event with scheduled timing? Arkana Jul 2015 #69

anyone who chooses to hear Bernie knows that nobody goes under the bus HFRN Jul 2015 #71

BLM Ambushed Themselves raindaddy Jul 2015 #74

"AFTER ALL HE'S DONE FOR YOU PEOPLE!!!!" bravenak Jul 2015 #81

That's not what I said... raindaddy Jul 2015 #83

That's what is sounds like. Refine the message. bravenak Jul 2015 #85

I'm fine with the original post, along with my response.. raindaddy Jul 2015 #92

I'm not. bravenak Jul 2015 #102

+1.......IMHO THE biggest factor keeping the black community.... yourout Jul 2015 #111

How humble is that opinion? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #128

I agree but for me it's a chicken or the egg question. In this country money = power....sadly. yourout Jul 2015 #137

chicken or egg is a loser for us. We've got to turn it into walk and chew gum. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #141

How does economic advantage stop Cops from Shooting unarmed black persons? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #149

Exactly... raindaddy Jul 2015 #148

And what about Sandra Bland? She was on her way up & out nc4bo Jul 2015 #196

When King And Johnson Joined Forces To Fight The War On Poverty wilsonbooks Jul 2015 #77

I love white people lecturing about Dr. king. It's damn irritating but they swear they NEED to do it bravenak Jul 2015 #79

It seems a better approach would have been to point out the things Obama has done to deal jalan48 Jul 2015 #82

A Rising Tide Lifts All Boats colsohlibgal Jul 2015 #94

they'll get over it ibegurpard Jul 2015 #99

I find it hard to believe you don't see how bad this looks. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #104

How "rich" is Sanders? jberryhill Jul 2015 #131

Exactly. Wealthy. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #138

He bought 85 acres in Vermont for $2500 in the sixties jberryhill Jul 2015 #150

Which he sold years ago. BainsBane Jul 2015 #199

income and net worth are two different things jberryhill Jul 2015 #200

Hillary Clinton's net worth: $21,500,000 Zorra Jul 2015 #202

That's wealthy. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #203

THESE THREADS NEED TO DIE artislife Jul 2015 #105

you don't know what any of the people you're attacking are MisterP Jul 2015 #163

are....? I am interested artislife Jul 2015 #166

Whiney? Dumb? Waving a Confederate flag? Maedhros Jul 2015 #190

It's a protest gollygee Jul 2015 #115

I'm really getting tired of tymorial Jul 2015 #132

Again....Democracy is Not always fredamae Jul 2015 #139

Wouldn't be good theater without the scripted surprise Babel_17 Jul 2015 #174

You must not have been around for the days of ACT UP RandySF Jul 2015 #176

It's not the protest that is the problem, it's the cooptation by those who use the event Maedhros Jul 2015 #191

Please tell me what has this - - -> Stellar Jul 2015 #194

Thank you. This is the first time I've heard a reasonable, do-able answer to what #BLM wants. RiverLover Jul 2015 #197

#BLM has only been talking about it on the news for almost two years. Stellar Jul 2015 #198

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #204