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HereSince1628

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7. That's certainly some of it. It's certainly not simply about the amount of the money

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 10:06 AM

Jun 2012

Just on the money there are half a dozen important questions to which we don't yet have answers. And those answers are important to understanding how CU influenced the recall and how popular movements can fight the big money asymmetry.

The unexpected emergence of "Walker Democrats" is a great curiousity and explaining them will undoubtedly require more than one-liners about the amount of money that supported Walker.

Frankly there are dozens of questions that remain unanswered.

Not a few of those questions require serious intellectual investment from the kinds of people who have more knowledge of what dissertation projects in politics look like than how to write a sexy headline or subject line.

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Why Walker won in WI, and what Dems need to do right now. [View all] RBInMaine Jun 2012 OP

I don't think Walker will pull back at all. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #1

No, not "so goes the nation" over one state. And if after this he doesn't re-tune, that is GOOD for RBInMaine Jun 2012 #3

They may be clever, but they aren't smart. BlueToTheBone Jun 2012 #8

He may consider this a "mandate," but it's quite possible that he will be indicted along with his Cal33 Jun 2012 #20

You make some valid points Savannahmann Jun 2012 #2

Yes, that is true. I do mention that the signature and primary campaign then a short general cam- RBInMaine Jun 2012 #4

"Never do something unless you'll almost certainly win" MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #5

No Manny, but you also don't over-reach before you have the fundamentals on your side. And here they RBInMaine Jun 2012 #6

You keep mentioning Walker's huge cash advantage MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #9

Maybe he means that it wasn't necessary for the DNC to directly provide the $500K Barrett requested. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #13

They contributed at least $1.4 million through various means and more would not have helped. Play RBInMaine Jun 2012 #15

They didn't contribute $1.4 million to Barrett's campaign after the primary. They had the money. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #18

The DNC and MANY OTHERS helped. You risked and lost. Learn from it and move on. No blame games. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #30

Aren't you one of those who said that the DNC's earlier help prior to the primary was sufficient AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #33

He had a big cash advantage, but that was not the ONLY dynamic and anyone who thinks so is refusing RBInMaine Jun 2012 #14

How do you feel about Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy? MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #19

Yes, good, fine, like it, it's right. But you're comparing apples to oranges here as I've said. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #29

That's certainly some of it. It's certainly not simply about the amount of the money HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #7

Another thought about why Walker might of won. He is not fond of the law, and has a history of midnight Jun 2012 #10

You just proved with your own statement the recall was a bad move. Only 27 days to campaign. That RBInMaine Jun 2012 #16

"My people"???? The nurses, or how about the teachers???? midnight Jun 2012 #27

"Your people" means Wisconsinites in general. The idea of recalling a sitting guv didn't sit well RBInMaine Jun 2012 #31

Very good post. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #11

Thanks. Appreciated. Repeated polls prove these points. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #17

We should now all SUPPORT UNIONISM? All of us? Should we oppose the next "free-trade" agreement? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #12

I think you can support both free trade and unions davidpdx Jun 2012 #22

How did you come up with the idea that "free trade" and unionism are not mutually exclusive? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #23

I have actually studied economics davidpdx Jun 2012 #25

You say, "Obama supports free-trade." Now he does, but not too loudly. This is different from his AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #26

I agree Obama's views have changed davidpdx Jun 2012 #28

I do not agree that Obama's views have changed. I say that his expression of them has. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #32

I think Obama's lack of support ... GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #21

That is total crap. Obama was extremely right to stay of that mess so enough of that nonsense. RBInMaine Jun 2012 #24