2016 Postmortem

appal_jack

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12. This is not 'liberalism, it is 'authoritarianism."

Sat Jul 11, 2015, 09:06 AM

Jul 2015

Hillary's enthusiasm for new and expanded gun control laws is entirely consistent with her support for the PATRIOT Act, her failure to condemn the crackdown against Occupy Wall St., her own condemnation of Edward Snowden, her push for a militaristic and coup-supporting approach while serving as SoS. In all these cases, she supports power and privilege over rights for the people.

Very little about Hillary is 'liberal.' True liberalism is a spirit of inquiry, a questioning of authority, a faith in fundamental rights that are truly inalienable, and a commitment to enlightenment processes of open debate as a path toward higher truths. When has Hillary embodied these?

So of course she supports gun control.

Don't be surprised when Americans fail to rally to this particular authoritarian banner, despite its ostensible liberal label. Support for new gun control measures may be a mile wide according to certain cleverly-phrased polls, but it's never more than an inch deep. In 2016, people will be voting about the economy and other core issues. Guns are just red-meat media fodder, and Democrats would do best to say that they support enforcing the current laws and move on.

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Hillary Clinton bucks trend, confronts NRA [View all] BooScout Jul 2015 OP

This is the correct direction...take on the gun lobby and more restrictions on guns. Sancho Jul 2015 #1

This wants a kick and a rec... nt MADem Jul 2015 #2

Happy to do that riversedge Jul 2015 #10

Thank you Hillary! FINALLY, a champion who will take on the NRA! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #3

I'm a Bernie supporter but it's great to see Hillary taking on the NRA. Good for her. jalan48 Jul 2015 #4

F the NRA DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #5

Great News! n/t Gore1FL Jul 2015 #6

She could engage the CDC greymattermom Jul 2015 #7

Here are some data greymattermom Jul 2015 #9

that would not be correct Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #19

This might be interesting reading for you Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #29

Discussed and dissected here. beevul Jul 2015 #41

Poin taken, if deaths due to gun control should be looked into since we have large numbers of Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #42

Say again? beevul Jul 2015 #46

Do you know a lot about suicides? Stopping every suicide is not going to stop someone from going Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #48

I see my link didn't work originally. beevul Jul 2015 #49

Well, we do have our great American traditions and values. yallerdawg Jul 2015 #8

^^^THIS^^^ MoonRiver Jul 2015 #11

This is not 'liberalism, it is 'authoritarianism." appal_jack Jul 2015 #12

lol...that is one way to explain it away.... BooScout Jul 2015 #14

Her liberal bona fides need work according to many sources: appal_jack Jul 2015 #24

Have you got a better plan on curbing gun violence? Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #30

And this... "Top Comcast Lobbyist hosts a Hillary Clinton fundraiser" Man of Distinction Jul 2015 #44

Eloquently presented. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #21

Good gawd how typical. Darb Jul 2015 #26

Derp Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #27

Full scale crock of conflated bullshit. Darb Jul 2015 #25

Is this an Onion Piece? busterbrown Jul 2015 #28

Well, now somebody can't hit "alert" for the next 24 hrs. Such a shame. kath Jul 2015 #33

Thank you, juror #5, for pointing out HRC's opportunistic flip-flopping on this issue since 2008. kath Jul 2015 #34

So now we're back to evolving being a bad thing? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #43

Thanks, Kath, for the behind-the-scenes look. appal_jack Jul 2015 #58

Sounds like the HRC camp thinks that is Bernie's weakest spot Android3.14 Jul 2015 #13

so in other words.....Hillary is too liberal onthis issue? BooScout Jul 2015 #15

More like too desperate Android3.14 Jul 2015 #16

keep the faith..... BooScout Jul 2015 #17

Yes, I suspect the same. zentrum Jul 2015 #22

After much searching, the Clinton camp found an issue where Clinton hughee99 Jul 2015 #45

She is going to need a progressive congress, which no dlc President ever wanted betterdemsonly Jul 2015 #18

This is welcome news. I don't care who takes on the NRA, I will support their efforts. Laser102 Jul 2015 #20

Yes, agreed, Congress needs to get a backbone and find ways to curb the gun violence. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #31

Toddlers and children getting a hold of guns and shooting themselves Iliyah Jul 2015 #32

A no apologies, take no prisoners, no holds barred approach to gun control and the NRA is what is needed. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #23

That is exactly the way TeddyR Jul 2015 #35

There WAS the little problem of the Dixie Swastika....it must all come down, and will, desperate Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #36

I find it interesting TeddyR Jul 2015 #53

The times they are a'changin'. Be scared, NRA, be very, very scared. You know what "scared is". Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #56

They said the same thing about the ACA BooScout Jul 2015 #37

Do the transparent NRA water carriers not realize how transparent they are? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #38

They think with their guns..... BooScout Jul 2015 #47

Ooooh, that is a good one Duckhunter935 Jul 2015 #51

it's time someone did it n/t BooScout Jul 2015 #54

Turn it up and bring it down, Candidate Clinton: Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #55

"initiating a debate" Fucking comedy GOLD I tell ya. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #39

Gun control waxes and riversedge Jul 2015 #50

I am so glad she is bringing up this issue. riversedge Jul 2015 #40

I am, too. SOMEBODY needs to. calimary Jul 2015 #57

The NRA will go they way of Confederate flags sooner or later. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #52