Because they're honest about it. (Reply #78)

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Wed Jul 8, 2015, 12:03 AM

delrem (9,688 posts)

78. Because they're honest about it.

Not pretending to be progressive and not even deigning to nod in the direction of 'liberal'. They are honest. Not pretending that "policy" matters to them, explaining up front that they're in it to win and that they love the money that they think it takes to win.

There are many DU posters who agree with ConservativeDemocrat, many of whom sport HRC logos as avatar. But there are also those who promote third-way economic/military policy but who aren't so up front. Hell, at first just a couple but now there are several actually pretending to be "Bernie supporters", using that front to promote their insidious message.

I find ConservativeDemocrat's honesty refreshing.

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113 replies	Author	Time	Post
Hillary wins / Bernie loses [View all]	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	OP
It's a beautiful day today.	Le Taz Hot	Jul 2015	#1
Still don't believe you....	daleanime	Jul 2015	#2
If this were December you'd have a real argument here, it's July....	Indepatriot	Jul 2015	#3
Your reality is a bubble	-Bernie-	Jul 2015	#4
I think the op's use of factual data means he/she is reality based.	JaneyVee	Jul 2015	#9
Show me one state....	daleanime	Jul 2015	#17
I will enthusiastically vote for Bernie if he is the nominee.	JaneyVee	Jul 2015	#41
Cool, cool...	daleanime	Jul 2015	#43
You are totally hot	Depaysement	Jul 2015	#36
Amen. My Brewers were on fire at the All-Star break last year when the tide turned. It's a long	Ed Suspicious	Jul 2015	#81
these sci-fi memes don't impress anyone except his core voters, same with the 1984 stuff.	bettyellen	Jul 2015	#110
Bookmarking	1000words	Jul 2015	#5
"irrefutable facts" Bwahahahahahaha.	99Forever	Jul 2015	#6
You do understand that the election is over a year away, don't you?	tularetom	Jul 2015	#7
Bernie is great and I hope he wins, but...	JaneyVee	Jul 2015	#8
Oh dang. And here I just stuck my Bernie bumper sticker on my bumper.	djean111	Jul 2015	#10
Just sell the car.	frylock	Jul 2015	#29
Why do you think arrogant dismissiveness helps?	Ken Burch	Jul 2015	#11
Not a landslide	Rosa Luxemburg	Jul 2015	#12
"irrefutable facts" - so these are "unskewed polls" then?... n/t	PoliticAverse	Jul 2015	#13
No, these are polls	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#19
The general election polls don't mean a thing now.	ram2008	Jul 2015	#28
These are old polls	Rosa Luxemburg	Jul 2015	#56
Thanks. nt	SunSeeker	Jul 2015	#14
And if Bernie loses and decides to	Chakaconcarne	Jul 2015	#15
Bernie won't run as an independent.	mwooldri	Jul 2015	#22
This message was self-deleted by its author	1000words	Jul 2015	#25
This is crap... the only reason he's behind is NAME ID	ram2008	Jul 2015	#16
It says a lot that a long time congressman and senator	hack89	Jul 2015	#20
Very sad that people don't educate themselves about his record	ram2008	Jul 2015	#27
Ok. Nt	hack89	Jul 2015	#32
Don't bother	Depaysement	Jul 2015	#38
It may be "sad", but it's the reality of the situation	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#60
And Clinton resonates with the public because of her accomplishments..	frylock	Jul 2015	#31
Besides being one of the best SoS in recent history?	hack89	Jul 2015	#34
What did she actually accomplish?	ram2008	Jul 2015	#37
Enough to garner the name recognition Bernie will never have. Nt	hack89	Jul 2015	#42
Oh, please! She is the former first lady.	Comrade Grumpy	Jul 2015	#45
Being the first lady, voting for the war, and losing to Obama?	ram2008	Jul 2015	#47
It's going to put her in the White House. Nt	hack89	Jul 2015	#48
Not if she can't articulate what her accomplishments are	ram2008	Jul 2015	#49
Bernie has the same problem. Nt	hack89	Jul 2015	#50
It's amazing how much this sounds like a Republican attack	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#61
You forgot dodging sniper fire in Bosnia.......	Indepatriot	Jul 2015	#59
oh, here, let me help you out....."Benghazi!!!!"	Sheepshank	Jul 2015	#92
And her accomplisments as SOS?	frylock	Jul 2015	#51
Your 2nd link does not have D nominee Obama's 2007 'electability' stats. You linked to 2008. (nt)	PotatoChip	Jul 2015	#18
Thanks for the actual factual challenge	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#21
Ok, thanks. (nt)	PotatoChip	Jul 2015	#23
These are not good polling numbers for Sanders	Gothmog	Jul 2015	#24
As long as the Democratic Party nominee wins....	mwooldri	Jul 2015	#26
Good information, been waiting to see matchups with DNC candidates other than Hillary.	Thinkingabout	Jul 2015	#30
bookmarking	frylock	Jul 2015	#33
you are providing data, not facts	virtualobserver	Jul 2015	#35
xcelant point	questionseverything	Jul 2015	#53
One of the candidates doesn't want too many debates	kenfrequed	Jul 2015	#107
Look where John Edwards was in 2007.	mwooldri	Jul 2015	#39
BernHeads ignore reality	calguy	Jul 2015	#40
Simply nonsense. IMO.	GeorgeGist	Jul 2015	#54
Bernie isn't that far to the left	Rosa Luxemburg	Jul 2015	#80
Ridiculous claim. But, since you believe he is that far to the left...	stillwaiting	Jul 2015	#101
I do believe that is how a huge chunk of the electorate see Bernie	Sheepshank	Jul 2015	#105
we view ted cruz as an moronic liar...	lame54	Jul 2015	#113
8 months til the first primary	AgingAmerican	Jul 2015	#44
At that rate, he'll be at 111% by Iowa!...nt	SidDithers	Jul 2015	#46
How about that NDP in Alberta eh?	ibegurpard	Jul 2015	#57
hehe. And Harper's looking to lose the federal election in October.	delrem	Jul 2015	#77
And the Dodgers started the day four up on the Giants.	cherokeeprogressive	Jul 2015	#52
Why are we listening to anyone	ibegurpard	Jul 2015	#55
I've noticed that before now that you mention it. An oxymoron, but granted it explains much.	appalachiablue	Jul 2015	#58
There's more to the Democratic party than the D.U.	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#62
none of those things makes someone "conservative"	ibegurpard	Jul 2015	#65
Don't say that too loud around here...	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#66
Yeah not interested	ibegurpard	Jul 2015	#68
Because they're honest about it.	delrem	Jul 2015	#78
Actually the policy differences are central, not to "purists", but to the average American.	mmonk	Jul 2015	#63
Curious about what the name "ConservativeDemocrat" is intended to mean at DU	McCamy Taylor	Jul 2015	#64
I'm no longer an NRA member. They've gone nuts.	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#67
And, I would think that since you do like to hunt that you might support BS's stance on guns	Cha	Jul 2015	#75
Oh I do	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#83
I think Hillary is pro 2nd amendment.. just for sensible gun laws. you really don't have to	Cha	Jul 2015	#85
"... insignificant to all but the most exclusionary purist ideologues ..." Bullshit.	Scuba	Jul 2015	#69
Way to prove my point, scuba	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#79
Yes, pro -war. Voted for the IWR and use of cluster bombs. That's pro war in my book.	Scuba	Jul 2015	#87
Since you are reality-based, you must realize how offensive the tone of your OP is.	Vattel	Jul 2015	#70
Offensive tone?	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#72
Sorry, but I don't think that you can justify the offensive tone of your OP	Vattel	Jul 2015	#73
Oh, I'm not "justifying". I'm flat out denying.	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#74
If you are denying that the tone of your OP is offensive,	Vattel	Jul 2015	#89
I will do no "gloating"	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#90
Obviously it wasn't the neutral facts you presented that I found offensive.	Vattel	Jul 2015	#96
Yes. It is very much a neutral fact...	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#98
Words have meaning.	Vattel	Jul 2015	#100
And I stand by that	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#102
So, for example, Clinton's supporting the patriot act vs Sanders' not supporting it	Vattel	Jul 2015	#103
Okay, good first step	ConservativeDemocrat	Jul 2015	#106
wow.	Vattel	Jul 2015	#108
"Is getting a shot at a Sanders presidency by nominating him worth the added risk of losing? " is a	bettyellen	Jul 2015	#112
Why would anyone on this site take someone with conservative in their name seriously?	99Forever	Jul 2015	#71
I'm going to answer identically as I answered ibegurpard #55	delrem	Jul 2015	#84
We'll just have to agree to disagree. n/t	99Forever	Jul 2015	#88
Ah, the "purist" and "ideologue" cards get inevitably played. Again.	villager	Jul 2015	#76
CLINTON WAS THE FRONT RUNNER IN 2004. SHE LOST.	Fearless	Jul 2015	#82
2004?	FSogol	Jul 2015	#91
2008. You know what I meant.	Fearless	Jul 2015	#93
You have the ability to edit it and make the correction instead of snapping at me.	FSogol	Jul 2015	#94
You inferred that I was snapping, I really wasn't.	Fearless	Jul 2015	#95
You added, "You know what I meant" which seemed like snark.	FSogol	Jul 2015	#97
POLLS are not "irrefutable facts".	John Poet	Jul 2015	#86
DINO alert. nt	daredtowork	Jul 2015	#99
WTF are you talking about?	Sheepshank	Jul 2015	#104
Silly you! Dontcha know only the polls showing a Bern- surge are correct?	bettyellen	Jul 2015	#109
why do we bother with elections...	lame54	Jul 2015	#111

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