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13. "irrefutable facts" - so these are "unskewed polls" then?... n/t

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Hillary wins / Bernie loses [View all] ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 OP

It's a beautiful day today. Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #1

Still don't believe you.... daleanime Jul 2015 #2

If this were December you'd have a real argument here, it's July.... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #3

Your reality is a bubble -Bernie- Jul 2015 #4

I think the op's use of factual data means he/she is reality based. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #9

Show me one state.... daleanime Jul 2015 #17

I will enthusiastically vote for Bernie if he is the nominee. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #41

Cool, cool... daleanime Jul 2015 #43

You are totally hot Depaysement Jul 2015 #36

Amen. My Brewers were on fire at the All-Star break last year when the tide turned. It's a long Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #81

these sci-fi memes don't impress anyone except his core voters, same with the 1984 stuff. bettyellen Jul 2015 #110

Bookmarking 1000words Jul 2015 #5

"irrefutable facts" Bwahahahahahaha. 99Forever Jul 2015 #6

You do understand that the election is over a year away, don't you? tularetom Jul 2015 #7

Bernie is great and I hope he wins, but... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #8

Oh dang. And here I just stuck my Bernie bumper sticker on my bumper. djean111 Jul 2015 #10

Just sell the car. frylock Jul 2015 #29

Why do you think arrogant dismissiveness helps? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #11

Not a landslide Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #12

"irrefutable facts" - so these are "unskewed polls" then?... n/t PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #13

No, these are polls ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #19

The general election polls don't mean a thing now. ram2008 Jul 2015 #28

These are old polls Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #56

Thanks. nt SunSeeker Jul 2015 #14

And if Bernie loses and decides to Chakaconcarne Jul 2015 #15

Bernie won't run as an independent. mwooldri Jul 2015 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jul 2015 #25

This is crap... the only reason he's behind is NAME ID ram2008 Jul 2015 #16

It says a lot that a long time congressman and senator hack89 Jul 2015 #20

Very sad that people don't educate themselves about his record ram2008 Jul 2015 #27

Ok. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #32

Don't bother Depaysement Jul 2015 #38

It may be "sad", but it's the reality of the situation ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #60

And Clinton resonates with the public because of her accomplishments.. frylock Jul 2015 #31

Besides being one of the best SoS in recent history? hack89 Jul 2015 #34

What did she actually accomplish? ram2008 Jul 2015 #37

Enough to garner the name recognition Bernie will never have. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #42

Oh, please! She is the former first lady. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #45

Being the first lady, voting for the war, and losing to Obama? ram2008 Jul 2015 #47

It's going to put her in the White House. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #48

Not if she can't articulate what her accomplishments are ram2008 Jul 2015 #49

Bernie has the same problem. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #50

It's amazing how much this sounds like a Republican attack ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #61

You forgot dodging sniper fire in Bosnia....... Indepatriot Jul 2015 #59

oh, here, let me help you out....."Benghazi!!!!" Sheepshank Jul 2015 #92

And her accomplisments as SOS? frylock Jul 2015 #51

Your 2nd link does not have D nominee Obama's 2007 'electability' stats. You linked to 2008. (nt) PotatoChip Jul 2015 #18

Thanks for the actual factual challenge ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #21

Ok, thanks. (nt) PotatoChip Jul 2015 #23

These are not good polling numbers for Sanders Gothmog Jul 2015 #24

As long as the Democratic Party nominee wins.... mwooldri Jul 2015 #26

Good information, been waiting to see matchups with DNC candidates other than Hillary. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #30

bookmarking frylock Jul 2015 #33

you are providing data, not facts virtualobserver Jul 2015 #35

xcelant point questionseverything Jul 2015 #53

One of the candidates doesn't want too many debates kenfrequed Jul 2015 #107

Look where John Edwards was in 2007. mwooldri Jul 2015 #39

BernHeads ignore reality calguy Jul 2015 #40

Simply nonsense. IMO. GeorgeGist Jul 2015 #54

Bernie isn't that far to the left Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #80

Ridiculous claim. But, since you believe he is that far to the left... stillwaiting Jul 2015 #101

I do believe that is how a huge chunk of the electorate see Bernie Sheepshank Jul 2015 #105

we view ted cruz as an moronic liar... lame54 Jul 2015 #113

8 months til the first primary AgingAmerican Jul 2015 #44

At that rate, he'll be at 111% by Iowa!...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #46

How about that NDP in Alberta eh? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #57

hehe. And Harper's looking to lose the federal election in October. delrem Jul 2015 #77

And the Dodgers started the day four up on the Giants. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #52

Why are we listening to anyone ibegurpard Jul 2015 #55

I've noticed that before now that you mention it. An oxymoron, but granted it explains much. appalachiablue Jul 2015 #58

There's more to the Democratic party than the D.U. ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #62

none of those things makes someone "conservative" ibegurpard Jul 2015 #65

Don't say that too loud around here... ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #66

Yeah not interested ibegurpard Jul 2015 #68

Because they're honest about it. delrem Jul 2015 #78

Actually the policy differences are central, not to "purists", but to the average American. mmonk Jul 2015 #63

Curious about what the name "ConservativeDemocrat" is intended to mean at DU McCamy Taylor Jul 2015 #64

I'm no longer an NRA member. They've gone nuts. ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #67

And, I would think that since you do like to hunt that you might support BS's stance on guns Cha Jul 2015 #75

Oh I do ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #83

I think Hillary is pro 2nd amendment.. just for sensible gun laws. you really don't have to Cha Jul 2015 #85

"... insignificant to all but the most exclusionary purist ideologues ..." Bullshit. Scuba Jul 2015 #69

Way to prove my point, scuba ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #79

Yes, pro -war. Voted for the IWR and use of cluster bombs. That's pro war in my book. Scuba Jul 2015 #87

Since you are reality-based, you must realize how offensive the tone of your OP is. Vattel Jul 2015 #70

Offensive tone? ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #72

Sorry, but I don't think that you can justify the offensive tone of your OP Vattel Jul 2015 #73

Oh, I'm not "justifying". I'm flat out denying. ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #74

If you are denying that the tone of your OP is offensive, Vattel Jul 2015 #89

I will do no "gloating" ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #90

Obviously it wasn't the neutral facts you presented that I found offensive. Vattel Jul 2015 #96

Yes. It is very much a neutral fact... ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #98

Words have meaning. Vattel Jul 2015 #100

And I stand by that ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #102

So, for example, Clinton's supporting the patriot act vs Sanders' not supporting it Vattel Jul 2015 #103

Okay, good first step ConservativeDemocrat Jul 2015 #106

wow. Vattel Jul 2015 #108

"Is getting a shot at a Sanders presidency by nominating him worth the added risk of losing? " is a bettyellen Jul 2015 #112

Why would anyone on this site take someone with conservative in their name seriously? 99Forever Jul 2015 #71

I'm going to answer identically as I answered ibegurpard #55 delrem Jul 2015 #84

We'll just have to agree to disagree. n/t 99Forever Jul 2015 #88

Ah, the "purist" and "ideologue" cards get inevitably played. Again. villager Jul 2015 #76

CLINTON WAS THE FRONT RUNNER IN 2004. SHE LOST. Fearless Jul 2015 #82

2004? FSogol Jul 2015 #91

2008. You know what I meant. Fearless Jul 2015 #93

You have the ability to edit it and make the correction instead of snapping at me. FSogol Jul 2015 #94

You inferred that I was snapping, I really wasn't. Fearless Jul 2015 #95

You added, "You know what I meant" which seemed like snark. FSogol Jul 2015 #97

POLLS are not "irrefutable facts". John Poet Jul 2015 #86

DINO alert. nt daredtowork Jul 2015 #99

WTF are you talking about? Sheepshank Jul 2015 #104

Silly you! Dontcha know only the polls showing a Bern- surge are correct? bettyellen Jul 2015 #109

why do we bother with elections... lame54 Jul 2015 #111