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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #8)
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 01:43 AM
bigtree (84,473 posts)
10. I don't disagree with most of what you said
...as a Democratic campaign, Sanders has captured that desire for a clear opposition. What's not as clear is if that opposition he's offering is going to be seen by voters as one which will translate into effective governance. That appears to be Hilliary's best position; her adherence to coalition politics, representing the policies of most members of our current party. That's reflected in the apparent support her candidacy is receiving from many progressives in Congress. I'm not going to spend my time representing her campaign, however, something that's just not in my own interest.
Now what Bernie and others can do in this primary is to create that 'movement' he's talking about which would shake up that legislature. You have to wonder, though, what impact lining up behind him is going to have on those races, especially if he's left the current make-up of the party's concerns unattended as he pursues his scorched-earth campaign. But it's certainly worthwhile, I think, to make that attempt. The article dismisses the need for worry about 'splitting the vote.' I'm old enough to remember losing campaigns which paid little heed to the general election. A lot of criticism of Hilliary's campaign has been of her inclusion of populist or more progressive pronouncements in her campaign, as if that's just opportunism. It may well be, but it's a smart move to avoid alienating as much of the left of the party as she's able with an eye toward building the coalition needed to succeed in the end. Despite the strident talk about 'revolutions,' that's not going to be accomplished with a splintering of the party. Is there enough concern, or as much as Hillary has indicated with her appeal, in the Sanders camp for pulling the party together for the campaign against the republican rival? We're not going to succeed by bullying voters into accepting the Sanders candidacy. More to the point of the article, there isn't room for 'generational' efforts or 'several election cycles' which threaten to leave our prospects for success in shambles. That's what concerns me in representing Hillary and Obama as evil incarnate. That's Sen. Sanders' concern, it appears, as well. We just can't afford another republican presidency. Indifference to that prospect sounds bold and righteous, but it tempts an untenable fate much worse than a Clinton presidency (or, conversely, a Sanders or O'Malley presidency, from the opposite perspective). |
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