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Response to Bennet Kelley (Reply #3)

Sun May 27, 2012, 11:14 PM

5. Wow, Bennet, that's really disingenuous

Someone with the legendary reputation of Torie Osborn is going to have a lot of prominent people backing her. But the strength of those individuals pales in comparison to the Sacramento machine.

Torie has a lot of money because she's raised the vast bulk of it from INDIVIDUALS in her district. Take a look at Betsy Butler. She has raised and spent more money than Torie in this race, and that vast majority of it isn't from people. It's from Sacramento politicians, PACs, and corporations like Anheuser-Busch and the Corrections Corporation of America.

Lastly, it's time for you and other Butler supporters to stop being so disingenuous about the Democratic Club endorsement processes. The vote at the Malibu Democratic Club was 41 for Torie, 12 for "no endorsement" and 5 for Betsy Butler. The vote at the Stonewall Democratic Club was 154-55. Those are embarrassing numbers, and trying to blame them on Osborn "stacking" the room is nothing but an attempt to draw attention away from Butler's embarrassing performances with grassroots Democrats. In addition to that, other organizations simply can't be influenced that way at all. The Santa Monica Democratic Club forbids the practice you're referring to, and Torie won it with somewhere around 77% of the vote. The Democratic Party of the San Fernando Valley has a fixed membership, and Torie won that with somewhere around 65% of the vote.

Saying that Torie is running an "insider campaign" is Rovian and hypocritical. We all know what the Sacramento machine is doing for Butler in terms of money (nearly seven figures at this point). But for someone who is so outraged about "stacking dem clubs" you've somehow neglected to mention the 50 or so delegates that Sacramento politicians appointed to vote in AD-50 to secure the official state party endorsement for Butler.

Both sides played by the rules, so I'm not complaining. But what I can't abide is the utter hypocrisy that dominates this entry.

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