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Cha

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7. "Is Snowden Putin's Puppet?" Many of us have thought he must be..
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 07:12 PM
Jan 2014

why else would he be praising Russia's Human rights? That or he's living in a make believe world where up is down and down is up.

Finally, somebody is talking about this from the Human Rights Campaign..

"I have no special knowledge about his actions or his leaks, but I would surely feel differently about him had he not taken refuge in Russia, where his asylum request tacitly endorsed the dictatorial regime of his gracious host, Vladimir Putin."

My reaction is not only due to Snowden’s first statement from Russia, while he was still in legal limbo at the Sheremetyevo airport, in which he included Putin’s Russia—a police state and patron of despotism worldwide—on his list of nations that “stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless.” Putin’s many political prisoners would disagree quite strongly, and Snowden could have been more respectful of the many injured and dead among journalists and his fellow whistleblowers in Russia."

It was unbloodyreal.. ES was being repspectful to Putin.. jumping head first into the whole propaganda thing. I'd feel differently about ES if he hadn't praised Russia's human rights from the get-go like a damn puppet and if he weren't slinging propaganda missives from Russia like a wound up robot. Bill Maher hit it square on target when he said everything that comes out of his mouth is "fuckin' nuts". Why is that? Whose agenda is this?

This>>>>

".. The NSA is to the Stasi what a bad hotel is to a prison. It is not what a government does with data that defines it, it is what it does to human beings."

Totally ignored by the "Russia good-USA bad"crowd.

snip// from your link, DV..

" The idea that an individual could carry out this mission and then flee to China and take refuge in Russia without any involvement by the KGB is hard to believe. Combine these logical suspicions with his asylum claim and the aforementioned false equivalency between dictatorships and democracies and Snowden is hardly cut out to be a sympathetic figure among those who respect the universal nature of human rights."

Yeah, it's hard for me too.. and I don't believe it.

"Sochi will be defined by how well the Olympics shine a spotlight on the corruption and repression of Putin and all who willingly overlook his crimes."

Thank you for this piece from Garry Kasparov the chairman of the New York-based Human Rights Foundation, Don Viejo~

Is Snowden Putin's Puppet? [View all] DonViejo Jan 2014 OP
Well, did the NSA have any dirt on Putin? If so, it's Snowden pulling the strings. Scuba Jan 2014 #1
I hardly think Snowden is pulling Control-Z Jan 2014 #2
No, I don't think he got information that was of the depth davidpdx Jan 2014 #4
Snowden is pulling Putin's strings? You cannot be serious... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #8
So the NSA had nothing good on Putin, eh? What the fuck are they monitoring then? Scuba Jan 2014 #11
so you are saying that you DO believe that Snowden is pulling Putin's strings? VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #12
Jeebus, is everyone here missing the sarcasm gene? Scuba Jan 2014 #14
we are just using ALL the evidence we have seen up to now.... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #15
Well, I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to annoy Putin at the moment. bemildred Jan 2014 #3
but but but....Russia has such great Human Rights...why would annoying Putin VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #13
You think Russia has great human rights? bemildred Jan 2014 #17
no....but Snowden seems to think so... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #18
No, he was dissembling, like I said, a wise thing to do in his position. bemildred Jan 2014 #19
rioooghhhhht! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #20
Clearly. Cha Jan 2014 #21
Agreed. I think "puppet" is too strong a word. joshcryer Jan 2014 #26
thank YOU...kudos...I laughed just reading your headline! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #28
''The NSA is to the Stasi what a bad hotel is to a prison.'' Whisp Jan 2014 #5
As a former National Security Advisory Council of Center for Security Policy member should he know jakeXT Jan 2014 #6
"Is Snowden Putin's Puppet?" Many of us have thought he must be.. Cha Jan 2014 #7
+ infinity and those are only some of the money quotes. stevenleser Jan 2014 #29
Garry Kasparov has nailed it, Steven! Cha Jan 2014 #33
Putin's hand is so far up his a@% he can play tetherball with Snowden's uvula. great white snark Jan 2014 #32
then "puppet" it is, snark! Cha Jan 2014 #34
I see Comrade Snowden has gotten with the program! VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #9
I do believe he is... sheshe2 Jan 2014 #10
Yes, and when Putin's through with Snowden, he'll toss him out like a carcass picked clean. IrishAyes Jan 2014 #22
Nailed it, Irish. sheshe2 Jan 2014 #23
Thanks - but in all fairness, it's such a big target, who could miss? IrishAyes Jan 2014 #24
I have concluded that he is being used to destabilize the Anglosphere for the economic advantage of freshwest Jan 2014 #16
+10,000 Anyone who isn't familiar with this technique need only read the COINTELPRO files. the gov't okaawhatever Jan 2014 #38
Kasparov tells it like it is. Unfortunate headline by Daily Beast. joshcryer Jan 2014 #25
If Obamabots are worried snot Jan 2014 #27
You forgot the sarcasm tag... stevenleser Jan 2014 #30
Unfortunately snotbot didn't bring his/her A game to Cha Jan 2014 #37
Another Snowden swooner giving credit where none is due. great white snark Jan 2014 #31
obamabot, what a quaint and moronic stale insult to dredge up. dionysus Jan 2014 #35
Yep, snotbot of the delusional snotbots.. sad to know snowdenitus Cha Jan 2014 #36
Kick & recommended. William769 Jan 2014 #39
kick Blue_Tires Mar 2015 #40
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