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Spitfire of ATJ

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33. Rule #1 with Conservatives: Never admit you are wrong...

Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:41 PM

Nov 2013

Chalk this up as another example (in a LONG list) of them being wrong.

BTW: I'd like to think you could read back their predictions on the floor and follow each with a well deserved "WRONG!"

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Hey, We Progressives Won Something. [View all] Alan Grayson Nov 2013 OP

Utterly shameless and sleazy karynnj Nov 2013 #1

No credit to Obama or Kerry. Okay, cool, it is what it is. We're used to this. freshwest Nov 2013 #3

Kerry and Obama were very much involved in the agreement karynnj Nov 2013 #4

alan wants to take credit and raise dough from it. nt dionysus Nov 2013 #21

karnnnj, 'angry,' 'missing.' You must have missed my plethora of BOG posts on this... freshwest Nov 2013 #41

What? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #6

Nothing Grayson did had anything to do with Syria giving up chemical weapons karynnj Nov 2013 #7

Oh, I see now RobertEarl Nov 2013 #11

Who said anything about drones - I spoke about him claiming credit for Syria karynnj Nov 2013 #12

Alan says : WE did this RobertEarl Nov 2013 #17

I far prefered Kerry's and Lavrov's diplomacy karynnj Nov 2013 #23

Nice dancing RobertEarl Nov 2013 #29

Alan's plan was to do nothing, Obama and Kerry were the ones who used diplomacy karynnj Nov 2013 #39

the BOG attempts to elevate the president by bashing liberals. Grayson and FDR are frequent Doctor_J Nov 2013 #58

^^^THis^^^^ bvar22 Nov 2013 #65

Agree. Bashing progressives who speak out boldy bums me out. Sad to see that kind of response here.. think Nov 2013 #68

Ha ha ha - Grayson is no FDR - not even close karynnj Nov 2013 #73

Except that the Fan Club uses both as targets Doctor_J Nov 2013 #113

"the fan club"??? karynnj Nov 2013 #114

Be Free to make up your own facts. zappaman Nov 2013 #112

If Syria did a targeted attack on our country, wouldn't that be war? Ace Acme Nov 2013 #104

and that thing that happened in british parliament? yeh, that never happened.. frylock Nov 2013 #80

How did that lead to getting rid of the weapons? nt karynnj Nov 2013 #84

i think it proved to be pretty signifigant in slamming the brakes on the rush to war.. frylock Nov 2013 #109

No I think what pisses them off is not praising Obama for everything zeemike Nov 2013 #9

+100 LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #63

These BOG'ers or whatever, make my head spin. On one hand they deride progressives rhett o rick Nov 2013 #81

Yep...n/t just a kick for Grayson. zeemike Nov 2013 #86

The underside of that bus is the only place decent folks should ever want to be TheKentuckian Nov 2013 #115

The Pentagon was clear that to neutralize chemical weapons stocks by force Maedhros Nov 2013 #8

I watched the various administartion people speak - and they were NOT speaking karynnj Nov 2013 #14

Not following your logic. Maedhros Nov 2013 #24

That has nothing to do with what I am saying karynnj Nov 2013 #26

I think you're being a bit unfair. Maedhros Nov 2013 #45

Was it a progressive victory or was it an Obama administration victory? karynnj Nov 2013 #49

Relatively mild criticism? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #76

I was not all that happy that we might attack karynnj Nov 2013 #82

Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #87

"baby ideas" karynnj Nov 2013 #91

Awww, you haz a sad RobertEarl Nov 2013 #95

Obama and Kerry were working diplomatically way before Grayson spoke up karynnj Nov 2013 #97

You have that correct RobertEarl Nov 2013 #98

"haz a sad" That sounds really intelligent karynnj Nov 2013 #102

Oh but we muz be nice to war mongers! If we're just nice enough long enough Ace Acme Nov 2013 #107

Grayson also said 'Let Allah sort them Out' Whisp Nov 2013 #10

What's with all this trash talk? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #13

and I say WTF is wrong with someone who uses Let Allah Sort them Out... Whisp Nov 2013 #15

I see what you are doing RobertEarl Nov 2013 #20

"slander" - for repeating his words?? karynnj Nov 2013 #27

WTF think Nov 2013 #32

Very seriously! nt karynnj Nov 2013 #57

Sorry. I do give credit to Obama, Kerry, & Hagel but to denigrate Grayson's efforts think Nov 2013 #67

I'll stop posting on this because I am beating a dead horse karynnj Nov 2013 #90

I agree. Beacool Nov 2013 #55

And Libya has turned out so well. bvar22 Nov 2013 #66

Gosh, to read that 2007 statement, you'd almost think the Senator had read the constitution! nt Ace Acme Nov 2013 #108

"Utterly shameless and sleazy"....to dis such a hard-working representative. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2013 #64

Lets NOT forget this twisted rationalization via Kerry & Obama: bvar22 Nov 2013 #70

Kerry made a distinction between a targeted bombing of military facilities karynnj Nov 2013 #79

...and the entire World laughed because... bvar22 Nov 2013 #105

send money. just like a fundy preacher lol nt msongs Nov 2013 #2

jesus christ, i agree with you on something... dionysus Nov 2013 #19

Ya avoiding wars is so like a fundy,,,,,,, think Nov 2013 #34

It is cause to celebrate! libodem Nov 2013 #5

Yes, we won something. I'm glad for that and won't begrudge credit where it's due. ancianita Nov 2013 #16

"now send me 25 bucks a month for me reelection campaign!" dionysus Nov 2013 #18

Your sig line RobertEarl Nov 2013 #25

1) i wrote my sig line 2) still just a fundraising ploy by Alan dionysus Nov 2013 #40

Um... and you'd rather see him with less money than his GOP opponent? calimary Nov 2013 #60

I was just watching Rachel...two of the largest critics of PBO...one was the Whirlpool spawn, libdem4life Nov 2013 #22

Libdem4life - Wish I could rec your remarks n/t truedelphi Nov 2013 #30

Thank you. libdem4life Nov 2013 #38

Hear! Hear! ReRe Nov 2013 #42

most sensible post in this thread noiretextatique Nov 2013 #53

Alan never stop speaking the truth because that is what "they" fear the most Botany Nov 2013 #28

The Republicans would have lied us into another $6,000,000,000,000.00 war ... JEFF9K Nov 2013 #31

Rule #1 with Conservatives: Never admit you are wrong... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #33

I wished LittleGirl Nov 2013 #35

i read this and cheered JanT Nov 2013 #36

I love you Alan... ReRe Nov 2013 #37

K&R bobduca Nov 2013 #43

Congressman Grayson in my opinion blue14u Nov 2013 #44

Yet people here wonder why the Republicans win so many times, truedelphi Nov 2013 #46

absolutely! noiretextatique Nov 2013 #54

The Neo-Con chickenhawks will have their war Enthusiast Nov 2013 #47

Maybe you missed that the US/Russia got a resolution that removed the chemical weapons karynnj Nov 2013 #50

I didn't miss a thing. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #69

Kicked and recommended. Enthusiast Nov 2013 #48

Heads up, Pronto! ReRe Nov 2013 #51

K&R rudolph the red Nov 2013 #52

We definitely won this one. Now on to the fight against the TPP. Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #56

aren't the cia still training rebels in syria? questionseverything Nov 2013 #61

They were never training them in Syria - karynnj Nov 2013 #92

ok training them for syria questionseverything Nov 2013 #101

Might make a good 60 Minutes story... 4_TN_TITANS Nov 2013 #59

Hmmmm . . . Jack Rabbit Nov 2013 #62

I give the President credit for his handling of this matter. Laelth Nov 2013 #71

Grayson for President!!!! n/t SmittynMo Nov 2013 #72

K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #74

"Let's celebrate peace"? WHAT peace? ucrdem Nov 2013 #75

Simple: Not Iraq RobertEarl Nov 2013 #77

Look, the war is far from over, and Syria is being bombed regularly. ucrdem Nov 2013 #78

It is a Syrian civil war RobertEarl Nov 2013 #83

The point is that the job is far from finished and this OP is badly misinformed. ucrdem Nov 2013 #85

That's what the warmongers all say RobertEarl Nov 2013 #88

There IS no peace and I find the OP misleading and frankly offensive, sorry. nt ucrdem Nov 2013 #89

Of course you do!! RobertEarl Nov 2013 #93

What BS - Alan Grayson FORCED Obama and Kerry to use diplomacy karynnj Nov 2013 #94

We forced Obama RobertEarl Nov 2013 #96

No one "forced" Obama and Kerry to use diplomacy karynnj Nov 2013 #99

Calling out the president? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #100

What about asking Grayson to lead on Iran - to help diplomacy there karynnj Nov 2013 #106

Yes - it's not necessary to actually criticize or insult Obama to drive the BOG mad. Maedhros Nov 2013 #110

I'm still holding my breath for Act 2. CFLDem Nov 2013 #103

May you can help avoid a possible Act 2 starring Iran, by helping give diplomacy a chance karynnj Nov 2013 #116

k&r idwiyo Nov 2013 #111