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davidpdx

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54. I never heard about that

Reply to antigop (Reply #53)

Thu Feb 21, 2013, 12:41 AM

Feb 2013

Maybe it wasn't that big of deal as I was paying pretty close attention to everything that was going on.

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Top Democrat: Hillary Clinton Would “Clear The Field” In 2016 [View all] DonViejo Feb 2013 OP

I think he is probably right. WI_DEM Feb 2013 #1

At this moment in time, I agree - but the same was said in 2005 about Hillary Clinton karynnj Feb 2013 #36

Probably right NewJeffCT Feb 2013 #2

Just like she did last time! MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #3

Yes! SheilaT Feb 2013 #5

Last time, she hadn't had the historically second most powerful job in the country. stevenleser Feb 2013 #7

And the winner was a Senator whose legislative record in DC was shorter than hers... Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #8

I didn't say that that is why she was rejected. stevenleser Feb 2013 #10

The actual outcome of the election cycle suggests that the modest record in the Senate Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #13

I dont think you can say that, no. There is only one conclusion you can draw from 2008 IMHO stevenleser Feb 2013 #18

Speaking superficially... MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #11

You can pretend she won't win if she runs, but you will in fact be pretending. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #12

That's what they said to a guy named Barack Obama. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #14

I never said it to or about Barack Obama. I never thought she was unbeatable in 2008. stevenleser Feb 2013 #16

Yeah, you also put down others as 'superficial' while making a specious point yourself. Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #19

LOL, there is nothing specious about the many reasons I have given you. nt stevenleser Feb 2013 #20

Which is what made Mr. Leser's point highly entertaining. MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #29

Obama had the advantage of being right on Iraq. dkf Feb 2013 #65

Well. That settles it. nt MannyGoldstein Feb 2013 #15

Janet Napolitano for Vice President. graham4anything Feb 2013 #30

She was also first lady to an extremely popular President and played an active role... Hippo_Tron Feb 2013 #35

I'm sorry Steve I have to agree with Manny on this one davidpdx Feb 2013 #40

I never said that last time, I didn't believe it. Your blaming me for other people's opinions stevenleser Feb 2013 #44

I think you and Hoyer are wrong davidpdx Feb 2013 #49

She also ticked off the engineering/IT community because of offshoring and H-1b nt antigop Feb 2013 #53

I never heard about that davidpdx Feb 2013 #54

Here ya go.... antigop Feb 2013 #55

She co-founded the Senate India caucus with JOHN CORNYN! 'nuff said nt antigop Feb 2013 #57

If she gets a restraining order on Mark Penn, we'll know she's serious nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #33

Now that is funny davidpdx Feb 2013 #41

The Dick Morris Award? nt geek tragedy Feb 2013 #47

Yes, those two are both toxic davidpdx Feb 2013 #62

She actually got the popular vote. joshcryer Feb 2013 #87

You would swear there was a presidential election this year. marmar Feb 2013 #4

I hope not. NorthCarolina Feb 2013 #6

Hillary "Regime Changer" Clinton endorsed by Steny "Mr. AIPAC" Hoyer. Big Surprise. leveymg Feb 2013 #9

amazing, leveymg, isn't it? nt antigop Feb 2013 #59

Maybe Joe would be up for 8 more years of the Vice Presidency? tarheelsunc Feb 2013 #17

She was supposed to clear the field in 2007 midwest irish Feb 2013 #21

No, it was Condi vs Hillary, remember? geek tragedy Feb 2013 #34

how fantastic midwest irish Feb 2013 #42

" +1" to the "inevitability"meme counter. nt antigop Feb 2013 #22

Dems should wait untill the very last second to tip off Republicans on who will run. Sunlei Feb 2013 #23

It NEVER fails. Beacool Feb 2013 #24

really? DonCoquixote Feb 2013 #27

I wasn't referring to you specifically. Beacool Feb 2013 #45

Obama is more progressive and less hawkish than HRC karynnj Feb 2013 #37

Yeah, the left mostly coalesced around Obama. Beacool Feb 2013 #46

He is center left and there was no viable candidate to the left of him karynnj Feb 2013 #70

For me it really has nothing to do with whether she is progressive enough or not davidpdx Feb 2013 #43

The "inevitability" meme was mostly pushed by the media, back in 2008 and now too. Beacool Feb 2013 #48

I agree that's what we should be focused on davidpdx Feb 2013 #50

it was pushed by Hillary. Whisp Feb 2013 #63

No, it wasn't. Beacool Feb 2013 #74

I don't recall any other candidate with that amount of certainty they will win. Whisp Feb 2013 #76

I agree! zappaman Feb 2013 #25

Hillary Clinton 2016. Our best chance of keeping the White House for another 8 years. Walk away Feb 2013 #26

then the bets will be on when Hillitary goes to war, and with whom and when. guaranteed. Whisp Feb 2013 #38

I don't give a crap whether you like Hillary or not, Beacool Feb 2013 #66

So all non Americans should not have opinions on U.S. policies... Whisp Feb 2013 #71

I'm not a huge Obama fan, but I don't call him names. Beacool Feb 2013 #72

Edwards was called a lot of names, Wiener... all sorts of democrats are called names here Whisp Feb 2013 #75

Saying you can't stand the sight of him is sooooooo much better. AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #78

That's my right, but I don't make up insulting names for him. Beacool Feb 2013 #79

so the millions worldwide that protested the iraq war... Whisp Feb 2013 #77

Biden voted "yes" on the Iraq war as well.. so who does that leave that passes.. Walk away Feb 2013 #67

Hillary45. For the continuation of President Obama's agenda. Simply the best. graham4anything Feb 2013 #28

Let's just swear her in right now. BlueStater Feb 2013 #31

I am grateful to the Clintons warrprayer Feb 2013 #32

Scaife, that was the clinton's arch enemy, supposedly back in Bill's terms? Whisp Feb 2013 #39

indisputable front runners don't always hold it together for one reason or another Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #51

Blah, blah, blah, 2016, blah, blah, blah! longship Feb 2013 #52

it's called the "inevitability" meme. nt antigop Feb 2013 #58

Center-right Hoyer says so. Not true at all. David__77 Feb 2013 #56

Here are two more polls so both the left and the right can gripe. Beacool Feb 2013 #60

Not likely. It's certainly possible that she could win the nomination, but I don't think winter is coming Feb 2013 #61

Why is everyone trying so hard to avoid a primary? davidn3600 Feb 2013 #64

The democrats need to nominate the best person that can defeat the teabag thug party workinclasszero Feb 2013 #68

Hillary Rodham Clinton, Governor of Texas 2014. Prettyy Pleasssee, Mrs Clinton we NEED you. Sunlei Feb 2013 #69

Governor of Texas? Beacool Feb 2013 #73

we need Democratic leaders in all the States to get states out of the republican chains of control. Sunlei Feb 2013 #80

Well, maybe Texas will be in play by 2016. Beacool Feb 2013 #81

I want Mrs. Clinton to knock Perry off his perch now, next election. no more years of corruption. Sunlei Feb 2013 #82

There's a little problem, she doesn't live in Texas. Beacool Feb 2013 #83

I'd give her my house for the couple years so she has a place to call her own :) Sunlei Feb 2013 #84

I give up. Beacool Feb 2013 #85

I hope she runs and gets the nomination. joshcryer Feb 2013 #86

I like her, and would likely support her again. Amimnoch Feb 2013 #88