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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
20. some did at the time but fairly quickly learned they had made a very big mistake
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:47 AM
Feb 2013

I suppose at the time - although sensing I was going against my sounder judgment - I suppose I leaned in the direction of supporting it - but with much fear and trembling. This was not because I believed Iraq was a security threat to the United States - That was crazy talk and I knew that all along. I leaned toward supporting it because of my connections with the Middle East and my knowledge about the nature of Saddam's rule left me with ranging contempt and disdain for that man and his wretched regime. I can think of no political figure within my life time who I have hated more. It was hard to imagine that it was possible to make life worse for most Iraqis than it already was under Saddam Husein. But the invasion and at least the way the Bush Administration handled it did exactly that. There is no way of knowing if it might have worked if the aftermath had been dealt with competently. But, I doubt it. When the social cohesion of a country is fractured -even if that social cohesion had been ruthlessly defended by a brutal totalitarian state - it is not likely that it can be put back together again - when so many irreconcilable differences exist within that country. At the very least - the U.S. blindly walked into a no-win situation. I don't know if there was ever a window of opportunity to make the invasion into a liberation - but if there was - they certainly blew it. And frankly, I doubt such a opportunity ever existed except in some peoples' fanciful imaginations and wishful thinking.

Which war are you talking about? There were a couple going on at the same time. MADem Feb 2013 #1
We didn't, and you are right. annabanana Feb 2013 #2
There were some, yes GP6971 Feb 2013 #3
I certainly didn't support the Bush-Cheney war LiberalEsto Feb 2013 #4
Iraq? None that I know of. Afghanistan? Some, or more. onehandle Feb 2013 #5
I was not here then but of course I didn't support the invasion Bluenorthwest Feb 2013 #6
Where does the "many" come from, all of a sudden? Democracyinkind Feb 2013 #7
Following a thread this a.m....The word should be some... But still. “some”? busterbrown Feb 2013 #8
What makes you think some DUers supported the Iraq invasion? Kahuna Feb 2013 #9
Seems to be an ongoing argument around here this a.m. busterbrown Feb 2013 #10
If there were any supporters they kept it to themselves. nt Kahuna Feb 2013 #11
I found this place... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2013 #12
Yes, I did. Though was not on DU at the time question everything Feb 2013 #13
So, you didn't question everything then? Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #14
I was catching a lot of shit until Question Everything showed up. busterbrown Feb 2013 #15
Questioning the atrocities of Saddam Hussein? No question everything Feb 2013 #17
Conflating W.W.11 and Kosovo to Iraq is such crap!!! busterbrown Feb 2013 #16
Takes one to know one? question everything Feb 2013 #18
Can not help those who don’t help themselves busterbrown Feb 2013 #19
"Saddam Hussein had to be removed." ... not necessarily. DCBob Feb 2013 #22
some did at the time but fairly quickly learned they had made a very big mistake Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #20
There was an active debate here on DU leading up to the invasion..I'd put it at 70%-30% against alcibiades_mystery Feb 2013 #21
I think most liberals were against it at the time. DCBob Feb 2013 #23
I was daily reader during the run up to invasion, though not registered. Ash_F Feb 2013 #24
I Still Have My "Not Me Ever" Bracelet otohara Feb 2013 #25
You never met Pavulon. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #26
Along with Tansy_Gold Feb 2013 #27
Forgot about that one. Arctic Dave Feb 2013 #28
I don't think I will ever ever ever forget Tansy_Gold Feb 2013 #30
This is an asynchronous environment. That's one of its greatest assets, especially compared to patrice Feb 2013 #29
DU'er from 2001. I didn't support either the Iraqi OR Afghanistan invasions. David Zephyr Feb 2013 #31
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