2016 Postmortem

earthside

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8. The House will be pressured ...

Thu Feb 14, 2013, 08:06 PM

Feb 2013

... is my theory.

If the filibuster is reformed and the Senate passes and sends over to the House bill after bill after bill, then I think Boehner is going to finally feel the pressure to let there be votes in the House.

The filibuster deadlock now gives Boehner an excuse not to do anything unless it is clear that there is 60 votes in the Senate.

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Have the Republicans played right into Harry Reid's hands? [View all] Empowerer Feb 2013 OP

I don't know. But Dems should save their ire for the GOP right now. I think they lied several TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #1

I agree Empowerer Feb 2013 #3

I think more of the anger needs to be directed at the 7 spineless Ds that wouldn't back the reform davidpdx Feb 2013 #36

I do not think so. Hard Assets Feb 2013 #2

The House will be pressured ... earthside Feb 2013 #8

Yes, I agree. Filibuster reform will be easier now to get all the dems to vote yes next time. n/t Tx4obama Feb 2013 #4

Next time when? davidpdx Feb 2013 #34

I hope you're right wryter2000 Feb 2013 #5

Folks out in the real world need a lot of evidence. They are not as immersed in this as you may be. Empowerer Feb 2013 #37

Having missed the "first day" when a simple majority was all annabanana Feb 2013 #6

Exactly. It needed to be done on day 1, when only a simple majority was needed. HooptieWagon Feb 2013 #21

that's not necessarily the case. the "nuclear option" only requires 51 votes. unblock Feb 2013 #27

I don't see it working that simply davidpdx Feb 2013 #35

What's the technical term for the "nuclear option"? annabanana Feb 2013 #38

some call it the "constitutional option" unblock Feb 2013 #39

Reid's not that smart NV Whino Feb 2013 #7

Exactly right. Did you notice how quickly the President responded? Think he and Harry had a plan? lamp_shade Feb 2013 #9

Harry wasnt keeping powder dry. He was doing exactly what he wanted to keep the rateyes Feb 2013 #10

I kind of can't help agreeing with you. Cleita Feb 2013 #13

Occams razor pscot Feb 2013 #16

bingo rateyes Feb 2013 #17

Message auto-removed Leeds Devil Feb 2013 #32

I don't think they CAN change the rules now. elleng Feb 2013 #11

Dream on...would that it were true! n/t freckleface Feb 2013 #12

Another form of chess is it? Autumn Feb 2013 #14

To find powder this dry... ThoughtCriminal Feb 2013 #15

Isn't the window to reform Senate Rules closed? bvar22 Feb 2013 #18

Don't you know Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #19

Harry Reid! donco Feb 2013 #20

You are wrong on this. former9thward Feb 2013 #22

There are other ways to do this - that are not limited to the first business day... Empowerer Feb 2013 #24

It takes 67 votes to change a Senate rule. former9thward Feb 2013 #26

Unless you are a Republican. In 2005, Bill Frist threated to do that MID-SESSION with 51 votes BlueStreak Feb 2013 #29

Thanks and what you are saying is true but ... former9thward Feb 2013 #30

Yes, but it was under threat of "the nuclear option", which was illegal BlueStreak Feb 2013 #31

Just how long are we going to keep up this charade? MrSlayer Feb 2013 #23

No. His powder will always be dry, and he will keep getting abused by the repukes. nt madinmaryland Feb 2013 #25

it's not clear (yet) that the deal has failed. republicans appear to be backing away from filibuster unblock Feb 2013 #28

Win by losing. blkmusclmachine Feb 2013 #33