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In reply to the discussion: So Obama eliminates the Drone Program....and months later there is a vicious attack on [View all]Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)28. Okay, let's consider this from your perspective then...
So Obama eliminates the Drone Program....and months later there is a vicious attack on americans, here or abroad......Obama would immediately be put in a Lame duck situation, Republicans would probably have huge success in the next elections, followed by a republican presidency. Based on what we have experience with this type of role out, how many more kids and civilians around the world would end up dead? Im not willing to take that chance..
There are a few problems with this idea.
The first is the assumption that these drone strikes have any impact on the number of terrorist attacks. We can play any kind of let's pretend you like, but the reality is that we do not know. There might be more, less, or no change at all. What we DO know is that we are doing this now and we still have attacks.
Second, you seem to be reaching an unsupported conclusion when you say that the American people would blame Obama for any attacks which take place. This is something of a stretch. For the most part the American people really don't much care. They aren't paying attention most of the time, and even during the last election when they were paying attention, the attack at that time -- the first to kill an ambassador in a long time -- had no negative impact on the election. Quite a few were seriously turned off by the GOPs efforts to politicize the attack.
Third, you seem to be arguing that we should accept this clear, unprecedented, and positively bone chilling assault upon our Constitution on the off chance that it might help us in the next election. I would suggest you reconsider your priorities. But let's set that aside and consider the potentially negative impact this policy has on democratic voter support. It's not guaranteed that the attacks you predict will actually happen, it's not guaranteed that if they do they will have any effect on the election, but it IS guaranteed that if Obama continues with this insanity there will be negative consequences.
It might not matter to YOU, but there are a good number of others who are not just unhappy, they are horrified. They will not vote for a guy who claims the authority to murder Americans at his whim, with no oversight. They did not vote for Obama or anyone else so that they could take the Bush policies that disgusted them, and expand those policies to some 1984 nightmare reality. If even one in ten democrats say "Fuck these evil bastards" we will not only lose the midterms, we will lose the Presidential elections as well.
So with all that in mind, do you still think this is something to play political games with?
And more important, is this REALLY something you should so casually dismiss as unimportant?
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So Obama eliminates the Drone Program....and months later there is a vicious attack on [View all]
busterbrown
Feb 2013
OP
So Obama cuts the Defense budget in half and uses the money for infrastructure and education.
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#2
You are afraid of a collusion between Corporations and Government and you support Drones?
Vincardog
Feb 2013
#5
yes, bombing the shit out of people in a gutless manner always makes the bombers safer
Mutatis Mutandis
Feb 2013
#10
Drone attacks send a horrible message to the world about who we are and what we stand for.
busterbrown
Feb 2013
#32
January 21, 2017. The first order by the new republican president is an escalation of drone attacks.
rug
Feb 2013
#18
No, his first order will be an all out economic embargo on Iran. Then North Korea.....
busterbrown
Feb 2013
#19
"I voted for Jill Stein"=I don't want to make a difference so I'll selfishly enable Republicans.
great white snark
Feb 2013
#29
All Presidents after JFK have been afraid to stand up to the military-industrial complex
TroyD
Feb 2013
#24
I agree, the Pentagon holds the POTUS hostage just like the police captain of small cities and towns
busterbrown
Feb 2013
#25