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In reply to the discussion: Would you rank Hillary Clinton as one of the best Secretaries of State of all time? [View all]joshcryer
(62,270 posts)24. That is patently absurd.
Libya and Syria did have popular uprisings, with popular protest that was squashed by their respective governments. Anyone saying otherwise is just deluded. Syria's popular protest was not nearly as cohesive as Libya's, but Libya's arms flow was inevitable with half the country in the hands of protesters. As it stands now most of the arms being used in MENA conflicts are not from Libya, they're from the regimes themselves.
No doubt you'll be claiming the regimes being armed to the teeth with Western and Russian made weapons is fine.
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Would you rank Hillary Clinton as one of the best Secretaries of State of all time? [View all]
ButterflyBlood
Jan 2013
OP
The U.S. cannot stand by and watch people rise up and get crushed time after time. Whether it was
secondwind
Jan 2013
#4
The US, France, UK and KSA trained, armed, and funded exile groups that "rose up" simultaneously
leveymg
Jan 2013
#5
Josh, I've been through this with you. Amb. Stevens coordinated the opposition in Libya - that's
leveymg
Jan 2013
#27
If you deny it is was without outside guidance and assistance, you deny history.
leveymg
Jan 2013
#29
She was appointed 1-term SoS as a deal made at the Convention in Aug '08. She had her own agenda
leveymg
Jan 2013
#11
Here's a NYT report - they were alone, nobody else knew contents of the discussion at Feinstein's
leveymg
Jan 2013
#34