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davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
9. You know I really like and respect you as a poster
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jan 2013

We've responded back and forth a few times (nothing memorable). But that post just plain disappoints me. Let me tell you why:

1) I think dredging up someone's posting history is just plain bad faith. Sure people do it on here, but that doesn't make it right.

2) The position, whether you like it or not is a high office and should be treated as such. The person is the "Secretary of Defense". If someone put that word in when talking about Barack Obama and the office he holds people here would riot.

3) (unlike the two above that address your tone, this addresses the substance) People do make mistakes and they do change their minds. There are some issues that I had a few years back (I won't say which ones) that I'd get lambasted on DU for and then hung out to dry. While it wasn't on the issue of war and certainly wasn't life or death, I can see know that I was wrong.

There were many people who were on the wrong side of the issue when it happened. The tactics being used by the other side to get people to capitulate were terrible.

As to the nomination of Hagel, I support him. I don't think President Obama would put someone in office who would not support his decisions. All cabinet members work at the pleasure of the President of the United States.

He opposed it LATER-as did Biden, Kerry, and others. Hillary NEVER opposed it to this day. Hagel jenmito Jan 2013 #1
After he used his vote to authorize shock and awe and death and the winds of opinion changed Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #3
He did not offer only rhetoric Inuca Jan 2013 #4
His votes were for both wars. He voted YES on Iraq Resolution. Bluenorthwest Jan 2013 #8
Hewas one of the first Republicans to side with Democrats karynnj Jan 2013 #11
Thanks for putting that weak argument against Hagel to rest with facts. n/t jenmito Jan 2013 #14
You know I really like and respect you as a poster davidpdx Jan 2013 #9
Hillary never turned against the Iraq war. Hagel did, as did Kerry and Biden. Others here proved jenmito Jan 2013 #12
He offered up rhetoric, but it was unpopular rhetoric with his party. WeekendWarrior Jan 2013 #13
Actually, Kerry was against the DECISION to invade while Clinton and Biden supported it blm Jan 2013 #2
Again, that is not really correct frazzled Jan 2013 #15
Yes, I can. Kerry always supported regime change in Iraq, just like Kucinich did in the 90s. blm Jan 2013 #16
Many people, including Democrats, voted for the Iraq war resolution pnwmom Jan 2013 #5
Easy question.. Hagel voted for the War on Iraq.. then "turned against it" Cha Jan 2013 #6
this is a dense stupid argument if you have any hindsight ability to understand recent events TeamPooka Jan 2013 #7
"Opposing Iraq" in this context means "demanding Phase IV planning" Recursion Jan 2013 #10
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