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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
52. I raise dairy goats...
Mon Jan 7, 2013, 01:30 PM
Jan 2013

You are correct the milk is delicious and tastes a lot better than cow's milk. We drink it raw without pasteurization. The problem from a competitive standpoint is that the laws are all stacked against the small scale producer. 75-100 years ago milk was a major health issue and many laws were passed to protect people from unclean dairy products. Now we have much better knowledge about how to keep things clean and technology for getting it cold faster etc and these outdated laws have been manipulated by large dairy corporations to make it effectively impossible to provide a small farm alternative to mass produced milk. They hamstring small business under the guise of health standards.

I can sell milk off of my farm, for example, but I cannot advertise it in any way nor can I take it off my farm to sell it at a farmers market nor can I bottle it. Customers have to hear about it through word of mouth... come to my farm ... and pour it in their own bottle. Obviously these restrictions make it very difficult to compete as a producer. Large dairies lobby state legislatures to strengthen such laws and increase the penalties to avoid having to compete with small family farms.

On the cost side. Livestock feed prices precede food price hikes by about 6 months. Thanks to last summer's drought and a decimated corn crop primarily, we have been paying $12 dollars for 50 lbs of grain that was $8 last year and by August hay prices had nearly doubled. Crappy grass hay goes for $8/ bale because of the shortage. I do not recall it ever going above $5 here in this area of southern Illinois. We've been paying these prices all year and people still are resistant to rising milk prices.

$7 Milk? [View all] JEFF9K Dec 2012 OP
I like milk and would hate to see it go as high as that. Ridiculous. virgogal Dec 2012 #1
I haven't drank it for about 20 years. My wife drinks the 1% kind in her morning plethoro Dec 2012 #2
What are good non dairy sources of calcium ? Any that are cheaper? Dairy has always been subsidized lunasun Dec 2012 #3
books JEFF9K Jan 2013 #7
Replying to research later hogwyld Jan 2013 #24
luckily JEFF9K Jan 2013 #36
spinach, just don't forget the vitamin D. perhaps a multi vitamin is easiest :) Sunlei Jan 2013 #47
I drink at least 2 gallons a week, this would hurt. tridim Dec 2012 #4
i think they fixed this already d_r Dec 2012 #5
I typed JEFF9K Jan 2013 #8
reruns? d_r Jan 2013 #9
A temporary fix as passed on Tuesday... Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #26
Thank heavens Aerows Jan 2013 #28
Happy New Year! Sekhmets Daughter Jan 2013 #31
Happy New Year to you too! Aerows Jan 2013 #32
I drink soy milk. Much healthier. pangaia Dec 2012 #6
Except that over 90% of soy in the US is genetically modified TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #16
Bummer. pangaia Jan 2013 #18
Look on the container, if it's not GMO they'll say so TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #20
USDA Organic is not GMO. roody Jan 2013 #29
Thanks roody and TexasBushwacker..` pangaia Jan 2013 #34
Peta Squirmworm Jan 2013 #10
why peta? I think this is more the dairy industry threatening a price hike will happen if they Sunlei Jan 2013 #51
The farm bill has been fixed already. Lil Missy Jan 2013 #11
Almond Milk is just as good and doesn't come from cow tits Heather MC Jan 2013 #12
Almond milk is a high-sugar beverage cprise Jan 2013 #14
"complete" protein JEFF9K Jan 2013 #15
You can buy unsweetened almond milk (n/t) queenjane Jan 2013 #22
milk Squirmworm Jan 2013 #13
Just because a book is a best seller doesn't make its science valid TexasBushwhacker Jan 2013 #17
Vegan diets don't work for everyone Aerows Jan 2013 #42
+1 SouthernDonkey Jan 2013 #19
so now milk doesn't matter? cornbread_king Jan 2013 #21
"I'm sorry I couldn't die soon enough for you guys." bunnies Jan 2013 #23
7 bucks seems like a lot for a jug of hormones, blood & pus. bunnies Jan 2013 #25
Milk really upsets my stomach Chico Man Jan 2013 #27
I can drink milk by the glassful and Aerows Jan 2013 #41
I love milk Aerows Jan 2013 #30
Funny Chico Man Jan 2013 #39
You equated a food Aerows Jan 2013 #40
And humans are calves Chico Man Jan 2013 #43
Humans drink milk Aerows Jan 2013 #44
How about these for facts? Chico Man Jan 2013 #46
There are far worse things for you than milk Aerows Jan 2013 #48
Lots of people struggle with digestive problems Chico Man Jan 2013 #54
Indeed Aerows Jan 2013 #55
At my grocery store, its already over $7. apnu Jan 2013 #33
Okay, Jeff, are you just joshing us here? AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #35
ignore at your own risk JEFF9K Jan 2013 #37
Oooookaaaay then.....LOL. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #38
I think there will be milk retailers who will sell for much less. Besides, goat butter is delicious. Sunlei Jan 2013 #45
I've never tried goat butter Aerows Jan 2013 #49
I raise dairy goats... jcgoldie Jan 2013 #52
hey thats such a cool family business, I would love to have a local farm I'd go hens and goats :) Sunlei Jan 2013 #53
Thanks Sunlei jcgoldie Jan 2013 #56
you are right it is the way big businesses monopolizes the market. That's not fair to local farms. Sunlei Jan 2013 #57
Milk prices her went up over the weekend 10 cents a gallon Tippy Jan 2013 #50
the farm bill was extended along with the "fiscal cliff" agreement Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #58
Hmm...now what will I have with my gummy worms? Jamaal510 Jan 2013 #59
We must open more cows to drilling... Purrfessor Jan 2013 #60
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