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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Naomi Klein: Neoliberalism is to blame ... [View all]nikto
(3,284 posts)109. It's not purism --- that's just lazy thinking
Last edited Thu Jan 5, 2017, 07:30 AM - Edit history (1)
They're called, values.
Mine go back to the 50s, and evolved thru the following decades, thru JFK, LBJ,
Nixon, Carter, Reagan, BushI, etc, up to now.
And yes, I supported Bernie.
But I forgive you, man.
You're just scared, as many folks are.
I am too.
FDR's classic advice helps now.
Just don't let fear cloud your vision, as it has for many these days.
Below is a link to a blog post I have made.
If you are serious about knowing where I'm coming from, check it out:
http://thesuspicionist.blogspot.com/2016/12/how-can-progressives-evaluate-trumps.html
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Riiiight. And the partisan Republican Congress had nada to do with those bills, right?
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2017
#83
This is a complete misunderstanding of Clinton and the role of the President.
OrwellwasRight
Jan 2017
#135
No. It's a clear understanding of the role of the president - and his power, which is limited.
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2017
#136
OMG. A political novice. Now you sound (not saying you are) like a Republican. First you
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2017
#138
Wrong. It is about messaging. And about racism/sexism. And about Comey and Russia.
DanTex
Jan 2017
#23
No that person uses it just fine. You use it as if you own the term. You don't. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#50
Thank you, DanTex! Thank you for the eye-opening facts that too many on the left refuse to
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2017
#84
Purists believe that their values are everyone's values. Purists believe that anything short of
BlueCaliDem
Jan 2017
#116
If you can explain to me how he was going to change Lieberman and Baucus's minds, please go ahead.
DanTex
Jan 2017
#105
Folks on this board have been hyper-sensitive about certain words for a while now
nikto
Jan 2017
#114
These policies were on her website she kept referring to---That did a lot of good, didn't it?
nikto
Jan 2017
#110
Old-time Democrats like me will never accept today's more economically Conservative-leaning Party
nikto
Jan 2017
#113
Oh that Clinton "machine"- one would think Hillary had been president for the last 24 years
delisen
Jan 2017
#5
She's right, the left keeps moving to the right to get those donor dollars and now we have an
rainy
Jan 2017
#8
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
nikto
Jan 2017
#16
that's a fine definition... but it doesn't fit Hillary Clinton, as she often was called a neoliberal
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#70
I love Naomi but this is a cheap argument. Neoliberalism is just a trendy term for the status quo
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#9
the New Deal died with Reagan... and liberal Democrats have a bad track record of getting elected
Fast Walker 52
Jan 2017
#26
No, I want a democrat with some conviction and the ability to project it and convince others
Nay
Jan 2017
#68
No, she doesn't. That's bullshit. It does not apply to Democrats. It MIGHT apply to Libertarians
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#59
Yes, 1000 times, yes. This is what tacking to the center as corporatists has brought us.
TonyPDX
Jan 2017
#22
Right...because we have so much power...if you wanted to do that ...then electing Hillary was the
Demsrule86
Jan 2017
#75
So busy attacking the mythical "neoliberalism" - forgot to defend against the real live fascists.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#31
Nope, that person doesnt need to do anything. They understand the real meaning of the word. nt
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#60
It's just another variation of the RW "Democrats same as Republicans" bullshit.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#85
Agreed. And it's tiresome. These folks just need to specify what policies they want that they aren't
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#86
Funny the supposed "liberals" attacking mainstream Dems always seem to use RW talking points.
baldguy
Jan 2017
#108
It's mythical as used by Kline and many here and a poor substitute for actually making an argument
stevenleser
Jan 2017
#51
Racism Sexism and voter suppression are all real, and I think Klein should have framed her argument
JCanete
Jan 2017
#43
A basic problem in the Democratic party is that neoliberals and traditional call them New Deal
PufPuf23
Jan 2017
#64
"A good chunk of Trumps support could be peeled away if there were a genuine redistributive agenda
Starry Messenger
Jan 2017
#69
Trump didn't rig the system. The system is rigged in favor of Republicans over Democrats every time.
JCanete
Jan 2017
#87
If they hacked the machines I agree. If they offered up fake news...well that's a fucking drop
JCanete
Jan 2017
#93
but was it stolen by Russia or the GOP? if by the GOP, well they steal it just about every time
JCanete
Jan 2017
#98
No naomi, you are to blame...and people like you who refused to support the only
Demsrule86
Jan 2017
#74