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2016 Postmortem

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geek tragedy

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Mon Oct 31, 2016, 07:00 PM Oct 2016

David Corn has done it again! Trump was cultivated by Russian spy agencies!!!! [View all]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump

On Friday, FBI Director James Comey set off a political blast when he informed congressional leaders that the bureau had stumbled across emails that might be pertinent to its completed inquiry into Hillary Clinton's handling of emails when she was secretary of state. The Clinton campaign and others criticized Comey for intervening in a presidential campaign by breaking with Justice Department tradition and revealing information about an investigation—information that was vague and perhaps ultimately irrelevant—so close to Election Day. On Sunday, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid upped the ante. He sent Comey a fiery letter saying the FBI chief may have broken the law and pointed to a potentially greater controversy: "In my communications with you and other top officials in the national security community, it has become clear that you possess explosive information about close ties and coordination between Donald Trump, his top advisors, and the Russian government…The public has a right to know this information."

Reid's missive set off a burst of speculation on Twitter and elsewhere. What was he referring to regarding the Republican presidential nominee? At the end of August, Reid had written to Comey and demanded an investigation of the "connections between the Russian government and Donald Trump's presidential campaign," and in that letter he indirectly referred to Carter Page, an American businessman cited by Trump as one of his foreign policy advisers, who had financial ties to Russia and had recently visited Moscow. Last month, Yahoo News reported that US intelligence officials were probing the links between Page and senior Russian officials. (Page has called accusations against him "garbage.&quot On Monday, NBC News reported that the FBI has mounted a preliminary inquiry into the foreign business ties of Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chief. But Reid's recent note hinted at more than the Page or Manafort affairs. And a former senior intelligence officer for a Western country who specialized in Russian counterintelligence tells Mother Jones that in recent months he provided the bureau with memos, based on his recent interactions with Russian sources, contending the Russian government has for years tried to co-opt and assist Trump—and that the FBI requested more information from him.

"This is something of huge significance, way above party politics," the former intelligence officer says. "I think [Trump's] own party should be aware of this stuff as well."

Does this mean the FBI is investigating whether Russian intelligence has attempted to develop a secret relationship with Trump or cultivate him as an asset? Was the former intelligence officer and his material deemed credible or not? An FBI spokeswoman says, "Normally, we don't talk about whether we are investigating anything." But a senior US government official not involved in this case but familiar with the former spy tells Mother Jones that he has been a credible source with a proven record of providing reliable, sensitive, and important information to the US government.


MOAR!!!

In June, the former Western intelligence officer—who spent almost two decades on Russian intelligence matters and who now works with a US firm that gathers information on Russia for corporate clients—was assigned the task of researching Trump's dealings in Russia and elsewhere, according to the former spy and his associates in this American firm. This was for an opposition research project originally financed by a Republican client critical of the celebrity mogul. (Before the former spy was retained, the project's financing switched to a client allied with Democrats.) "It started off as a fairly general inquiry," says the former spook, who asks not to be identified. But when he dug into Trump, he notes, he came across troubling information indicating connections between Trump and the Russian government. According to his sources, he says, "there was an established exchange of information between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin of mutual benefit."

This was, the former spy remarks, "an extraordinary situation." He regularly consults with US government agencies on Russian matters, and near the start of July on his own initiative—without the permission of the US company that hired him—he sent a report he had written for that firm to a contact at the FBI, according to the former intelligence officer and his American associates, who asked not to be identified. (He declines to identify the FBI contact.) The former spy says he concluded that the information he had collected on Trump was "sufficiently serious" to share with the FBI.

Mother Jones has reviewed that report and other memos this former spy wrote. The first memo, based on the former intelligence officer's conversations with Russian sources, noted, "Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by PUTIN, has been to encourage splits and divisions in western alliance." It maintained that Trump "and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals." It claimed that Russian intelligence had "compromised" Trump during his visits to Moscow and could "blackmail him." It also reported that Russian intelligence had compiled a dossier on Hillary Clinton based on "bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia and intercepted phone calls."
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Was just going to post this article here but you Skidmore Oct 2016 #1
That's Right Ccarmona Oct 2016 #15
And that's why cable "news" will soon be TrishaJ Nov 2016 #92
Mother Jones and the Nation DK504 Nov 2016 #104
Yes! This! lolly Oct 2016 #49
Great incentive call, Skidmore! Cha Oct 2016 #62
Has the FBI been infiltrated? sunonmars Oct 2016 #2
Your fixation with this Russia business is just strange alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #3
Your comment is strange! ~ This is major news! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #7
Not really alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #10
Am doing GOTV regularly! ~and this is Major News! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #16
Yes, you can report and chew gum at the same time. kentuck Oct 2016 #60
With due respect, read the fucking story and connect the dots. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #8
Trump's slamming the UN, our allies, and fomenting racial and class divisions Dadgumit Nov 2016 #99
Posting an article by a journalist as respected as David Corn is not a "fixation." enough Oct 2016 #9
I disagree. Glamrock Oct 2016 #11
Yes alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #18
It knocks the server story out of the headlines Sugarcoated Oct 2016 #36
There wasn't any bleeding alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #37
The media has been pounding it for days Sugarcoated Oct 2016 #38
There soon will be. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #74
Zat right? alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #75
Dumpster going to slit his wrists when he loses. lonestarnot Oct 2016 #76
Excellent point, Sugarcoated! Cha Oct 2016 #63
Thanks, Cha! Sugarcoated Oct 2016 #77
drumpf has certainly earned it! Have you seen the latest cover of Cha Oct 2016 #78
As important as this is, pangaia Oct 2016 #51
Given the involvement of Manafort and Lewandowski, plus the hacking(s) traced back to Russia.... Hekate Oct 2016 #20
He is in deep trouble now that all of this is coming out. He (and Trump) should have just.... George II Oct 2016 #43
General Flynn has Russian connections also. kentuck Oct 2016 #61
Flynn, eh? One wonders, doesn't one. Hekate Oct 2016 #68
Nonsense. GeorgeGist Oct 2016 #41
Cause there's NOTHING at all there right? come on man... uponit7771 Oct 2016 #53
It doesn't matter if there is alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #56
Most likely and not the point at all... even if HRC was losing (and she's not) this is some fucked u uponit7771 Oct 2016 #57
While you're saying this, umpteen mainstream media outlets are telling us Mc Mike Oct 2016 #71
Don't worry. They're wrong too alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #72
I already know THEY'RE wrong. But thanks for the heads up, anyhow. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #82
social media is affecting the election the same amount, if not more, than ground game is. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #79
Whatever you say, buddy alcibiades_mystery Oct 2016 #81
Trump has closed the gap in early voting in NC, FL, IA, and OH. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #83
There is no more important bombshell than Trump is in bed with Putin. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #94
Wow, look at the subthread you caught. Well done. yodermon Nov 2016 #110
Some people enjoyed it alcibiades_mystery Nov 2016 #111
Holy SHIT! ncgrits Oct 2016 #4
Again wow! Just wow! Madam45for2923 Oct 2016 #5
Lock them up! Lock them up! Glamrock Oct 2016 #6
Bookmark. Kick. Rec. Hekate Oct 2016 #12
come on MSM, all these stories about Trump's ties to Russia! napkinz Oct 2016 #13
OMG OMG onetexan Oct 2016 #14
I'll be checking on the MSM as well. And welcome to DU as a poster as well! :-) Stonepounder Oct 2016 #19
I've been switching back and forth between MSNBC and CNN for a couple of hours. napkinz Oct 2016 #22
Give it time to sink in. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #97
welcome to DU! renate Oct 2016 #26
The M$M will probably not report it. FuzzyRabbit Oct 2016 #34
to the twitterverse please... whttevrr Oct 2016 #17
Great article. dalton99 Oct 2016 #21
Is there a November Surprise brewing tonight? This is getting really spooky! Coyotl Oct 2016 #23
Carville is my hero. CanSocDem Nov 2016 #102
I knew after Comey's letter that Leaks about Trump and Russia would start flowing out NoGoodNamesLeft Oct 2016 #24
David Corn might be on Lawrence tonight; he has been on constantly lately! senseandsensibility Oct 2016 #25
Please post a recap if you can. TY! onetexan Oct 2016 #33
I'll try, but it's just about to hit prime trick or treating time here on the westcoast! senseandsensibility Oct 2016 #35
drumph is dumb enough to think he can hide such a relationship BSdetect Oct 2016 #27
Watch your back, Mr. Corn! GoCubsGo Oct 2016 #28
Three stories... whttevrr Oct 2016 #29
That middle section about the server looks especially troublesome... ILFightinDem Oct 2016 #65
Most infuriating line: Squinch Oct 2016 #30
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Oct 2016 #46
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2016 #54
Someone needs to leak the actual memos. Could that be next? nt Maven Oct 2016 #31
There's a lot of specifics in there. geek tragedy Oct 2016 #40
Interesting. Yes that's what I think Maven Oct 2016 #42
Since this would be international, I expect the CIA is involved BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #32
CIA, NSA, DHS...probably others ILFightinDem Oct 2016 #66
Kick yardwork Oct 2016 #39
I believe this is the Rick Wilson bombshell. writes3000 Oct 2016 #44
yes, Rick Wilson had made some cryptic reference to Russia when he tweeted the other day napkinz Oct 2016 #45
This underthematrix Oct 2016 #47
He said, she said shadowmayor Oct 2016 #48
hahah...nice try. Trump is going down. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #96
Not sure what you mean? shadowmayor Nov 2016 #112
That could be true...sorry so many er concerned types here today. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #113
It truly saddens me that I am annabanana Oct 2016 #50
O.M.G. peggysue2 Oct 2016 #52
This is killer. Thank you. ancianita Oct 2016 #55
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #58
There is definitely something here. kentuck Oct 2016 #59
So it's not just our lying eyes and drumpf's big ugly mouth! Cha Oct 2016 #64
Please nail this jackass with this cleveramerican Oct 2016 #67
let's just hope.. getagrip_already Oct 2016 #69
Sent this to Rachel of the TRMS triron Oct 2016 #70
K & R oasis Oct 2016 #73
Another K & R For Exposure. Lifelong Protester Oct 2016 #80
I wonder if Comey was being blackmailed too. diane in sf Oct 2016 #84
kick nt jeffreyi Nov 2016 #85
K&R nt lillypaddle Nov 2016 #86
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #89
several stories now seem to intertwine the ru$$ian web. KewlKat Nov 2016 #91
If this is true, and I think it is. Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #93
Nothing on any MSM news site budkin Nov 2016 #95
Yup. Nothing. tavernier Nov 2016 #100
Skeptical..... ewagner Nov 2016 #98
K&R BSdetect Nov 2016 #101
MSM still stuck on Emails napkinz Nov 2016 #103
K&R 10000 + Views ain't enough BSdetect Nov 2016 #105
David Corn on MSNBC discussing story now on MSNBC napkinz Nov 2016 #106
the schills already have their talking points..... getagrip_already Nov 2016 #107
Kick again Hekate Nov 2016 #108
I personally this connects the dots- KrazyinKS Nov 2016 #109
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